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Vista to WIndows 7 problems in EVE (Multiboxing performance tanks)
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Soraya Jita
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-12-22 02:53:06 UTC
This is a loosely EVE related "wave my hands in the air" cry for help. I can't seem to get reliable information elsewhere, So I turn to my fellow eve players for some technical assistance/advice

Just recently I finally made the switch to Windows 7 from Vista ( I know). I was expecting some pretty amazing performance boosts just based on the overwhelming positive response that 7 has, particularly since Vista "is so terrible, resource hog" etc.
I have a tri-monitor setup, with two Geforce GTX 285's under the hood powering them. I have 6G's of physical memory, and a Intel Core i7 2.66 Ghz.

Before switching to Windows 7, I was able to run 3 clients, at moderate-high settings, with everything sitting comfortably around 55-60 FPS. Heat held at a steady 48D C, and everything worked pretty awesome, until of course blobfests happened, then things naturally bogged down, that was not an issue.

Now that I am running in Windows 7, I am only able to run the single client (at lower settings than before, mind you) at 60 FPS, when I bring the second client up, both drop to 30 FPS (which is strange, an even 50% loss like that ), then finally when I bring up the third and final client, it brings all of the screens FPS down to a horrible 18-22. Now let me restate:

In VISTA I was able to triple box (w/ 3 monitors) at higher setting than I am using now, with all screens sitting at 55-60 FPS. Now why is it, that now that I am using Windows 7, my ability to multi-box has been practically killed? My first impressions of W7 and Eve together are in the process of being ruined, and after about 4 days of troubleshooting I am about ready to roll back to Vista. Please help
Soraya Jita
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-12-22 03:17:34 UTC
::In addition, I've also noticed that these FPS drops hold true even if I don't enter the game, and just open the log in screens::
GreenSeed
#3 - 2012-12-22 11:52:31 UTC
did you upgrade the OS or did you do a clean install? are you using the reference drivers that came with the card or the ones from nvidia? im asking this because you should be able to run between 6 and 8 clients with no problems in that pc.

if you upgraded, windows will almost 99% sure have screwed up the driver migration, specially on a sli configuration. if you don't want to reinstall windows, you might have to do a clean uninstallation of your current vga drivers, something that is enough of a pain to justify just reinstalling windows.

also, on the update. did you reinstall eve, or did you just backup the eve directory? you might still need to update directx (windows update wont touch it) and some other windows libraries that usually the game installer will update for you.

do you have one monitor or two? are the client windows both on the same screen? are you playing on full-screen windowed, or plain windowed? are any of the edges of the eve windows overlapping to your second monitor? im asking this because windows 7 assigns clients to individual gpus depending on what screen they are (this is if the game cant use SLI), if you move the client windows from one monitor to the other you will have a MAYOR performance loss as the client and all the texture memory gets swapped from one vga to the other. and this performance loss will be constant if the client window is on both clients at the same time. (windows is dumb like that)


anyway, to me it seems like a SLI problem, you should try either turning it off, or simply removing one of the vgas. if it works then, try doing a clean install of the vga drivers, then a clean install of windows. on that set up running 3 clients shouldn't put any strain on the hardware.
jimbolina
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-12-22 12:10:01 UTC
same thing as mine, but i didn't migrate on diff OS. After latest patch i cant run 3 clients anymore. I wrote bug reports i wrote petitions and nothing. And performance are none playable in mission pockets with those NEW clouds which are the worst now then before. And they said they improved those uber clouds to perform better on fps front!

Shame on you CCP!
Soraya Jita
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-12-23 18:30:57 UTC
GreenSeed wrote:
did you upgrade the OS or did you do a clean install? are you using the reference drivers that came with the card or the ones from nvidia? im asking this because you should be able to run between 6 and 8 clients with no problems in that pc.

if you upgraded, windows will almost 99% sure have screwed up the driver migration, specially on a sli configuration. if you don't want to reinstall windows, you might have to do a clean uninstallation of your current vga drivers, something that is enough of a pain to justify just reinstalling windows.

also, on the update. did you reinstall eve, or did you just backup the eve directory? you might still need to update directx (windows update wont touch it) and some other windows libraries that usually the game installer will update for you.

do you have one monitor or two? are the client windows both on the same screen? are you playing on full-screen windowed, or plain windowed? are any of the edges of the eve windows overlapping to your second monitor? im asking this because windows 7 assigns clients to individual gpus depending on what screen they are (this is if the game cant use SLI), if you move the client windows from one monitor to the other you will have a MAYOR performance loss as the client and all the texture memory gets swapped from one vga to the other. and this performance loss will be constant if the client window is on both clients at the same time. (windows is dumb like that)


anyway, to me it seems like a SLI problem, you should try either turning it off, or simply removing one of the vgas. if it works then, try doing a clean install of the vga drivers, then a clean install of windows. on that set up running 3 clients shouldn't put any strain on the hardware.


I did a clean install, (or so I thought) Which I found to be a little strange to start with, there was no indication during this process that the HDD was being formatted. Any time I have done an OS upgrade it has been from a bare HDD that I had formatted.It was pretty clear in past versions and machines I've (and time consuming) that it was formatting. After the 7 Installation, I ran all of the necessary system updates, and my video drivers I got from the nvidia site, the newest ones actually 310.70 (sidenote; I did try rolling back to previous driver versions) Updated DirectX, all that jazz.

My Eve install was fresh, no migration.

I run 3 monitors. I do not run in SLI mode as SLI mode will not support the third monitor. I have tried running all of the SLI variants to see how it changed things, and unfortunately nothing really helps for the multiboxing performance.