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The real reason behind the HORRIBLE new NPC AI increase

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Knownasthatguy
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-12-21 02:41:11 UTC
Guys and gals, CCP has no motive to fix this, or anything else in this game that one does to make isk. They just want you to buy plexes and GTCs. Its a cash cow for them. Why would they change?
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#2 - 2012-12-21 03:06:57 UTC
This is going to...

Remove standings and insurance.

Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2012-12-21 03:08:47 UTC
Paikis
Vapour Holdings
#4 - 2012-12-21 03:37:19 UTC
tinfoilhattery at its best!
Jiji Hamin
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-12-21 03:42:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Jiji Hamin
Nope! Please try again. If you had a brain you might have come to the conclusion that they want people to get involved in better content like incursions, wormhole space, FW or to leave their parents' house and get into dangerous space via much of the aformentioned content OR just to run anoms in null. OR you could go with the conspiracy theory that they did this because there is too much isk in the economy and they want people to mine.
Knownasthatguy
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-12-21 05:08:16 UTC
Jiji Hamin wrote:
Nope! Please try again. If you had a brain you might have come to the conclusion that they want people to get involved in better content like incursions, wormhole space, FW or to leave their parents' house and get into dangerous space via much of the aformentioned content OR just to run anoms in null. OR you could go with the conspiracy theory that they did this because there is too much isk in the economy and they want people to mine.



If that was the case, why have all that content? The presumption is that if they wanted to push everyone to, " incursions, wormhole space, FW or to leave their parents' house and get into dangerous space via much of the aformentioned content OR just to run anoms in null", then they would just make everything null sec full of WH's and anoms; but they didn't, did they?
Mother Ducks
Quack LLC
#7 - 2012-12-21 07:35:11 UTC
You mistake High Sec for a place to reside, rather than the playpen that toddlers find themselves in. High Sec's purpose is to teach players the rudimentary aspects of the game in order to enable them to move on. I won't say what is the endgame simply because I find that WH space, Null, and LS have their merits (I've lived in them all). Missions becoming more difficult gears the player to accept a higher skill cap for his everyday capsuleer life. The difficultly in HS missions compared to the rewards of LS, WH, and Null SHOULD pre-empt an internal consideration of "could I make more flying elsewhere?" The answer is yes. It will take some time, but hopefully you L4 lifers will realized the validity of moving somewhere that has more risk but much more reward. Hell, roaming LS I make hundreds of millions an hour just scanning out sites in empty systems. Given I don't so that as a grind but more like a monthly outing, but the message remains the same: High Sec will likely become less and less profitable for the grinders. Adventure waits for you elsewhere! Get with the program and beat the crowd.
Annunaki soldier
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-12-21 08:22:27 UTC
although i would love to see more people living at low sec or null space wh etc , you realise that people that don't want to pvp they wil quit the game rather than forced to pvp.

Ride hard, live with passionĀ 

Aptenodytes
Reckless Abandon
#9 - 2012-12-21 10:54:55 UTC
If they are nerfing ISK income then how are people going to afford to buy PLEXes in-game? As demand decreases the price will fall, and so less people will spend RL money on them because they're not worth as much. Your logic fails.
Annunaki soldier
Perkone
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-12-21 11:06:07 UTC
Plex price might not fall at all in fact you might see it increasing. Your logic apply to items that are seeded - manufactured with in game mechanics. Plex on the other hand do depend on demand but if less people buy it and seeding they will become much more expensive.

Ride hard, live with passionĀ 

Ra Jackson
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-12-21 12:02:11 UTC
Annunaki soldier wrote:
although i would love to see more people living at low sec or null space wh etc , you realise that people that don't want to pvp they wil quit the game rather than forced to pvp.


You realize that you don't have to pvp in low or null sec? You just have to put in a little effort scout wise and you are actually safer than in hisec.
GreenSeed
#12 - 2012-12-21 12:15:35 UTC
Knownasthatguy wrote:
Guys and gals, CCP has no motive to fix this, or anything else in this game that one does to make isk. They just want you to buy plexes and GTCs. Its a cash cow for them. Why would they change?


the real reason, was to stop hsec plex farming. which makes one wonder why was this implemented on lvl4s too, seeing as lvl4s don't have respawning npcs. not even botters do lvl4s, since lvl5s or simple ratting are much better sources of income... and no botter uses drone boats.

and honestly, if you think any company with a subscriber base that bitches as much as this one does, would do something to drive people to rmt to play... you really are dumb.


Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#13 - 2012-12-21 13:10:40 UTC
Knownasthatguy wrote:
Guys and gals, CCP has no motive to fix this, or anything else in this game that one does to make isk. They just want you to buy plexes and GTCs. Its a cash cow for them. Why would they change?




You do realize that every account active is paid with legal tender? It's not like CCP decided to give everyone free gametime if they manage to make 600 milion ISK per month. People buy GTC and turn them into PLEX. Then they sell PLEX for ISK.

CCP will always make their money, no matter how many people are paying their gametime with ISK...
Klymer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2012-12-21 14:08:28 UTC
The new AI is an attempt to get the rats to engage in blob.....er fleet warfare. Instead of waiting for timers or triggers to engage players, the rats are engaging en masse and focusing fire until their target, be it a ship or a drone, is dead and then switching to the next one.

The next iteration of npc ai will see them dropping drag bubbles between stations and gates with alpha fleets sitting at optimal so you can't just warp from point a to point b to collect your cookie without a care in the world.
Knownasthatguy
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2012-12-21 15:00:52 UTC
Syrias Bizniz wrote:
Knownasthatguy wrote:
Guys and gals, CCP has no motive to fix this, or anything else in this game that one does to make isk. They just want you to buy plexes and GTCs. Its a cash cow for them. Why would they change?




You do realize that every account active is paid with legal tender? It's not like CCP decided to give everyone free gametime if they manage to make 600 milion ISK per month. People buy GTC and turn them into PLEX. Then they sell PLEX for ISK.

CCP will always make their money, no matter how many people are paying their gametime with ISK...



The point here is this, all these complaints about botters, people making isk hand over fist by burning missions, yada yaday, is all a conversation about how they are taking advantage of a system to stuff their isk wallets; all the while those crticizing it are doing the very same in alliances/coalitions running a cartel like control over tech moons and such.

You guys say, "they have to move from hisec and get in the game (wh space/0.0)", but explain why GTCs? If the ultimate goal is to get people to play the game, why even offer GTCs? If CCP wants to push everyone to 0.0 and such, just reduce the size of hisec by 2/3rds and get rid of all missions. GTCs don't encourage game play, they encourage pay to play. The honest truth to it all is CCP has no motive to fix missions or any other mechanic that could possibly make someone independent without being in large alliances/coalitions. Why would they?

Just face it, this game is nothing like it was 4 years ago. In my opinion its nothing but a griefers game. At the end of the day, CCP will bury this game like SOE did with SWG (who started same time EVE did). This is not a game you can casually play. This is not a game you can play a couple hours at a time, and that's what will eveuntually kill it. Not everyone want's to be in the CFC. Not everyone wants to be griefers, and not everyone wants to pay to play because hisec adventures fail to keep up with the surge of ISK flooding the market.

Get rid of GTCs, see how fast the markets fall.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-12-21 15:19:52 UTC
Syrias Bizniz wrote:
Knownasthatguy wrote:
Guys and gals, CCP has no motive to fix this, or anything else in this game that one does to make isk. They just want you to buy plexes and GTCs. Its a cash cow for them. Why would they change?




You do realize that every account active is paid with legal tender? It's not like CCP decided to give everyone free gametime if they manage to make 600 milion ISK per month. People buy GTC and turn them into PLEX. Then they sell PLEX for ISK.

CCP will always make their money, no matter how many people are paying their gametime with ISK...



You do realize that has nothing to do with what the OP is talking about?
Mother Ducks
Quack LLC
#17 - 2012-12-21 16:02:56 UTC
Knownasthatguy wrote:
Syrias Bizniz wrote:
Knownasthatguy wrote:
Guys and gals, CCP has no motive to fix this, or anything else in this game that one does to make isk. They just want you to buy plexes and GTCs. Its a cash cow for them. Why would they change?




You do realize that every account active is paid with legal tender? It's not like CCP decided to give everyone free gametime if they manage to make 600 milion ISK per month. People buy GTC and turn them into PLEX. Then they sell PLEX for ISK.

CCP will always make their money, no matter how many people are paying their gametime with ISK...



The point here is this, all these complaints about botters, people making isk hand over fist by burning missions, yada yaday, is all a conversation about how they are taking advantage of a system to stuff their isk wallets; all the while those crticizing it are doing the very same in alliances/coalitions running a cartel like control over tech moons and such.

You guys say, "they have to move from hisec and get in the game (wh space/0.0)", but explain why GTCs? If the ultimate goal is to get people to play the game, why even offer GTCs? If CCP wants to push everyone to 0.0 and such, just reduce the size of hisec by 2/3rds and get rid of all missions. GTCs don't encourage game play, they encourage pay to play. The honest truth to it all is CCP has no motive to fix missions or any other mechanic that could possibly make someone independent without being in large alliances/coalitions. Why would they?

Just face it, this game is nothing like it was 4 years ago. In my opinion its nothing but a griefers game. At the end of the day, CCP will bury this game like SOE did with SWG (who started same time EVE did). This is not a game you can casually play. This is not a game you can play a couple hours at a time, and that's what will eveuntually kill it. Not everyone want's to be in the CFC. Not everyone wants to be griefers, and not everyone wants to pay to play because hisec adventures fail to keep up with the surge of ISK flooding the market.

Get rid of GTCs, see how fast the markets fall.


You are comparing EvE with SWG? That is hilarious.

Secondly, GTC is a good barometer of how ISK is moving through the game relative to those buying them on the online market. Because of this, your logic is flawed. People can only sell the PLEX for as much as willing to pay for it, and if you pay attention to CCP reports, about 3/4 of PLEX is being withheld due to speculation. If people get poorer on a wide enough scale, you will see PLEX prices go down. CCP is slicing the non-risk Isk faucets to the game. When Incursions took the hit, missions were soon to follow. Before that, anomalies took the hit. Now Moon Goo is being looked at.

By the end of the day, I fully expect ratting, DED sites, anomalies, and WH space to be the best Isk/hr ration of isk in the game (in ascending order) and I think that is acceptable given the risk/reward scheme. I know all the Hisec'ers want to be space rich like everyone else, but your lifestyle lacks the risk to do so. You can be space rich, but you can't be allowed to accumulate the wealth as fast as someone who lacks local (put that one in for you nullbears too!).
bongsmoke
Visine Red
420 Chronicles of EvE
#18 - 2012-12-21 16:11:47 UTC
Wonder if CCP investigated every person whom complained about drones, if they would find bot's or people....
kick2
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-12-21 16:14:31 UTC
Mother Ducks wrote:


By the end of the day, I fully expect ratting, DED sites, anomalies, and WH space to be the best Isk/hr ration of isk in the game (in ascending order) and I think that is acceptable given the risk/reward scheme. I know all the Hisec'ers want to be space rich like everyone else, but your lifestyle lacks the risk to do so. You can be space rich, but you can't be allowed to accumulate the wealth as fast as someone who lacks local (put that one in for you nullbears too!).

Don't disagree... The hand writing has been on the wall for quite a while now... Not sure I am ready to move back in a WH, although I am better prepared this time...
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#20 - 2012-12-21 18:14:34 UTC
bongsmoke wrote:
Wonder if CCP investigated every person whom complained about drones, if they would find bot's or people....

or drone durability skill injected
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