Warfare & Tactics

Remove FW Missions from all Militias.

Everytime time someone joins a Miltia channel he asks "can I do mitions in my stealth bomber pls plox ?" - there is usually silence on all but the Minmatar channel. Before Inferno, it was not an issue since both Gallente and Amarr were able to do FW L4s in either the Tengu or the Ishtar. It wasn't really a big deal since the mission rewards were very lucrative and the ship investment quickly paid off. Now with the changes to drones, miltias, NPC AI and HMs the only "good" race for running FW is the Minmatar, lol. Every new player will choose the Minmatar, obviously, and can't really blame them, since it's very easy ISK that can be obtained in a 32M worth ship with next to no risk (unless a complete newbie without proper training).

I think that the most logical move is to remove FW missions completely or to revamp the agents to only provide storyline missions that would enable players to get faster promotions than through farming complexes. Such storyline missions would rewards next to no ISK but a significant (storyline like) standings boost.

There is also another solution... remove all EWAR completely from mission Militia NPCs so that each of the four Militias could be potentially attractive to newer players or those who are the only for ISK and not "good fights". Personally I don't care which one would it be.

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Reduction of the limited pve content of eve is not a good idea. Face it, pve brings in woke people. Besides, the content works, it's just the balance is off. I would not remove the isk reward. Instead, increase the speed, webbing, scramming, and number of frig rats in the minmatar missions. Players would have to fly other ships or in groups.

first off i run fw mission just fine in my hound in the amarr militia vs mintar. easy to make 180-225k lp for a 2-3 hr run


and CCP loves this! tjey love lp! all new pve content has been lp based. it costs me 1m isk to cash out every 1k lp


i used to earn around 300-500m a week off npc rewards. bringing isk into the game. now i remove around 250-350m isk a week from the game. thats about 1bill less isk in eve per week from just me. now add up all the fw players that used to anom or mission?


its not leaving anytime soon



if your in amarr and need help with fw missions join recklessfaith. i have a guide up on our forums



PS: **** droids and internet fourms. damn typos!

No it is farmville ... just with pirates ... but if u mission run ... u fine.

thanks. forgot about this one :)

I agree. But, only minmatar can do the missiosn effectively in a SB, players in other militias have to invest much more than 30m to get dem FW missions done. I would not complain about missions in FW as they were pre-Inferno... now a lot has changed and FW missions need a revamp.

Winning is reward enough. If they don't like it they can change to another militia.

FW missions are fine. you can farm them on any side with a SB. just be smart.


i run a set one nigjt a week for the 24th. i earn about 300m

the rest of the week i welp Daredevils in pvp


most fun ive had in eve ever!

it's already so, neutralizer and warp scrambler. Want to trade for TP? Sounds fine.

Ill break down some of your points

1) People who farm missions in FW use that ISK to fuel their other chars ... they don't care about FW and use the ISK to buy ships/PLEX for their mains

If they just farm to fuel there mains and dont care about FW, then they have no effect on the battlefield, they dont pvp in FW, they dont "waste" there LP to help the WZ cuz they dont care, they dont move systems by plexing. Let them PVE.

2) I'm gonna say it again. Before Inferno, missions were ok ..... regardles if they could by ran in a SB or a T3 ..... now it's more like go Minmatar or GTFO....

Again, I run missions as an Amarr FW pilot....they are fine, The hound is the best SB anyways for L4s being small sig, and faster than other SB, I am not sure about fighting Caldari if they use jammers, that would suck, but it seems to be a boost to Gal, since now you have to plex to earn LP, Maybe thats why they are winning lol

3) Or simply remove regular FW missions and buff normal security agents with an incrase in LP payout depending on the FW upgrade lvl.

Isnt that what a FW agent is? how is this any different? I can run normal highsec L4s in SB too but since I can do it risk free in a shinny faction BS I dont use a SB