Intergalactic Summit

To reassure all parties, I will make public the general procedure for neurological reconstruction we employ. The first step is a thorough examination and analysis of the current neurological state. Issues with proper functioning of the network are determined, including the viability of removing implants if those implants are obstructive. The solutions we aim for at this point are least-invasive-first and are directed towards returning the individual to a healthful state.

In this specific case. We will not remove any implant or device when in so doing it will irreparably impair the patient. In this case we will do what we are able to return the individual to health, though we are at this point unsure of how this will be done. Our primary concern is the well-being of the patient in a realistic sense.

I'm sorry, Tiberious, I'm communicating poorly, as usual. I don't intend on pulling anything functional out of anyone. Mr. Muertas is talking about individuals who have had an incomplete conversion. It's LDRBC's goal to try to bring them back to health and happiness, or as close as we are able. I would like that those who have been irrevocably converted be returned to Nation, as there they will have an opportunity to find happiness and prosperity, but this is neither my decision nor place to say.

We will do what we can to help who we can. I don't think it's fair to ask anything more than that.

I am accused of being long winded in my posts so I will answer you as quickly, but clearly a possible. I have no intention of taking your people, by this I mean Agents, True Slaves and so on. Leaving aside the fact that "saving" these people is not a viable scientific option at the moment, there is still the part of taking people against their will, all be it a will forced unto their own.
Secondly I have no planes of ever leading a raid into Placid against Sansha's followers, our mission is of rescue and deterent, not revenge and conquest.

When an Incursion by your Master is underway, we will come, with the goal of lose of life on either side being kept to a minimum, to stop the taking of people. All other goals that may be associated with those whom have a quarell with your Master and what you do may take up arms as they see fit, we are only concerned with the preservation of life and free will.

Oh dear....

Do you really think that argument holds any water Tiberious?

We both know that the vast majority of them did not consent to having those implants put into their brains in the first place, so your transparent attempt to hold the moral high ground here has just fallen down around your feet.
perhaps for those few who did choose to join you it is not a rescue, but for the others, whose individuality and will to be free has been muted under layers of implanted cybernetics and machine code, it IS rescue.
If we can find a way to remove those implants safely, to give back to them what your nation stole from them, then we can rescue them from a fate worse than death.

Yes, i get that, once implanted, true slaves have no will to be free, but that is your nation raping the minds of millions to fuel one megalomaniac's twisted nightmare. We may not be able to fix the damage YOU have done, but trying to make out that we're the ones in the wrong for trying is a feeble argument, even by your standards.

so, long story short....

We're not 'pretending' that we are rescuing them and blaming the resultant issues on you.
We're blaming the issues on the fact that they were abducted by the millions and implanted in the first place.
It is nation that raped the people of this cluster, do not try to blame the resultant backlash upon those you assaulted.

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Seven Tribes.
One Matari People.

Integration would be a more proper term, Natalcya. The original material is present, but the new material is seamlessly integrated into the old until it becomes as much a part of the brain as any totally biological component originally present. An addition, but not a layer. A complete and total reworking of how the brain works, away from the potential for breakdown present in any naturally evolved system, and into a better paradigm of function.

Essentially you are correct though. You can't then remove the implants and have the same thing left behind, anymore than you could remove someone's circulatory system and have the same thing left behind.

I hope everyone is getting the "thou dost protest too much" sense from the Sansha Loyalists posting here. Basically they keep repeating "you can't help the abducted, so don't try." Do you really think dedicated scientists are going to stop trying just because you claim nothing can be done? The more you protest these noble, good, and right efforts, the clearer it becomes that it is highly likely the Sansha hold will be cracked and eventually defeated. Nothing motivates a good scientist like the words, "It can't be done."

There is nothing more a Sansha loyalist fears than the very idea that those they have stolen may be helped back to humanity. Don't expect anyone to roll over and play dead just because you say they should.

Kudos to Los Muertas and his vision to make this effort. I hope many will join you. I also hope there might be some small way I can help. Don't let the Sansha-bots convince you that nothing can be done. Make this effort and good people will join you.

Nation is fighting a war. It is a war for its right to exist. It is a war it did not start. War is a terrible thing. We have never denied that.

Go and take a look at the ruins of Stain, Esoteria and Paragon Soul, and then ask yourself: Who forced themselves upon whom?

I know that living in nullsec means I miss some things that go on with the lesser pilots and their squabbles, but when were three regions glassed?

Uh-huh. Which regions?

Thank you for proving my point. A threat induced response if ever I have heard one. I see that emotion is not wired out of you Sansha-bots. "Torture your prisoners as we know you will"? Great response! With every post you give more impetus to the mission and purpose of the OP. Please keep it up. Also, your post does quite a good job in showing what you fear. "Idiot" and "Old man." Perhaps an "insult implant" would improve your creativity a bit.

Also: NUVOS is providing a small financial grant to Servant Brothers today. The amount is small, but I hope that more can be given as the work continues.