EVE General Discussion

I support CCP balancing the game. It is continously necessary.

But there's a difference between a null sec buff and a null sec buff at the expense of a high sec nerf. Don't tell me they're the same thing. CCP controls all aspects of the game. They can change mineral build requirements, resource distribution, even add new content to null, any of a million ideas that would "balance" the game by giving null more things. And it doesn't have to mean starving high sec peasants.

When I read through a topic like this I feel like I'm watching millionaires attempt to sway public opinion, explaining why millionaires deserve lower taxes and private jets. "Do you know how expensive it is to build a titan, noob?" Could you help a friend? *shakes can for isk donations*

This "high sec has it too good" mentality kills me. I can't even fathom how much of a barren wasteland high sec would have to become to encourage the kind of migration supporters of nerfing high sec in this way propose. Because I love the game, and it feels like setting fire to my place of birth, I just can't support that. I think it would more beneficial to create in-game social pressure to migrate out of high sec, more sponsored contests of different sorts out in null, a ccp-sponsored, pvp noob combat academy (maybe even one housed in low sec,) added content/null-specific-ships to break the static situation out there, incentivization of null sec mining. Comeon, generate some ideas. If null is so bored that they're worried about high sec, I think its time CCP gives them something to worry about beside noob playstyles.

I get that the desired outcome is for null sec to be the endgame and that the powers that be are largely nullsec residents. But more and more I also get the feeling that the powers that be have been playing the game for so long that they've forgotten the new player experience. It is not the same thing as creating a new character 7 years in. I wonder what percentage of CCP's RL revenue comes from players primarily working in high-sec (noobs, carebears) vs. 20 account multi-boxing plexxed-out null sec pvp'ers.

I'm guessing since null sec has all this political clout, high sec must be filled with nothing but trial accounts.

YK

As I said, you are totally right. My idea is foolish. I'm dumb.
I did explain what I meant, but I won't play the game of "pick one sentence, quote it, turn into what you want."
Good night. ;)

What leads you to believe that a lot of the opinions here are not being expressed by dev alts?
Look at where CCP gets most of the "visible" hires from.
Then listen to how CCP says that every dev they hire completely bucks all human nature and completely, irrevocably separates themselves from their past friends and biases.

Yeah, that is precisely how human nature works. We never carry our past biases with us.

I was about to give a long list of devs and their known past chars/ corps, but realized the ISD would censor that in a second, calling it a personal attack, even though a couple devs have acknowledged on the forums already their past affiliations.

What would be very impressive is if CCP showed precisely what part of the game every Dev, every ISD, every CCL member came from originally. In the case of the dev's, it should not be a problem to give the name of their past chars since they are supposed to drop all past affiliation when they become dev's.

A thing which you can say about pretty much any subject you care to name thats appeared on these forums, doesnt make it any less true. People heavily involved in something are generally the most motivated to talk about it, especially when they think theres something wrong.

I am of course doing you the charity of assuming you arent just brainlessly bleating about ebil nullseccers again and are actually trying to make a point for once.

Wait a minute the person who admits to having an agenda accusing other people of having an agenda instead of bringing any relevance to the thread. :allears:

I've yet to see anyone make a cogent argument against a highsec nerf on the basis that social interaction is required to operate in other sec status areas.

Yes,

Because no one wants to collect a piece of the 10B or so bounty on each of us.

It's not so easy, as an indi guy, to move around space.

It's "safe" because I don't have to undock and blow up a hauler full of materials to find out that it's not safe; not because there are no hostiles.

Common interests do not a conspiracy make.

On the other hand, I'd say most of the nullsec posters have no idea what it's like for a new player who doesn't have a community ready for them in the game.

A lot of people come to EvE with no community, no preparation, just a noob ship and Aura.

At least Aura has gotten better at explaining things over time, but she doesn't have a way to hook players up with others that they have things in common with, and the recruiting channel is a joke.

Some people never find a group they fit in with. They should just quit early and save you the trouble of having to deal with them?

I know very well what it's like as a new player coming to EVE.

I've played far longer in high sec then I have null. I was sponsored into GoonWaffe, I didn't come here forom the SA forums and start out in null.

I have played in high sec far, far longer then I have in null. My opinion is based on having been a high sec industrialist and then moving to null.

This is not a goonwaffe agenda. I'm not told to come here and post about this stuff. I do it because I actually enjoy the game, and after having experienced both sides of EVE, this is the conclusion I've come to.

It's ok for high sec to be on par, even slightly better at industry than null sec. You shoud have to be in a player corp working out of player owned structures though. After having spent the last year in null sec I've come to the realization that you can just stay in the NPC corps in high sec as a regular industrialist. Unless you want to actually do stuff like super cap, titan, and booster production, you don't ever have leave the NPC corp.

Wait, I thought we were saving new players?

Now we're saving players who need solo content in an MMO AND need that content to be competitive with group content?

Just let us know when the goalposts are gonna stop so we can begin then.