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GenBlase
EVE University
Ivy League
#1 - 2012-12-21 00:52:53 UTC
Did you know it is Market mechanics to give the money to the lowest seller? Even if I wanted to buy it from someone else?

For example, I put up a sell order for an Ibis for 15 million isk. I then go buy the same ibis but the isk does not go to the seller, but the lowest seller on the market. If he is selling the ship for 1 isk, he gets 15 million isk.

I dont think this is fair.
Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-12-21 00:55:15 UTC
sorry about your rmt plans

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Razor Rocker
Super Mother Fan Club
#3 - 2012-12-21 01:04:09 UTC
actually I'm fairly sure it works that the person who put up the ship for 1m gets his 1m, then the other 14m goes to CCP. The person selling the ship for 1m doesn't suddenly get more than what he asked for.

Or have they changed this?
GenBlase
EVE University
Ivy League
#4 - 2012-12-21 01:04:22 UTC
Besides my plans, this proves that the market isnt doing what we or at least I thought it would.
GenBlase
EVE University
Ivy League
#5 - 2012-12-21 01:05:49 UTC
Razor Rocker wrote:
actually I'm fairly sure it works that the person who put up the ship for 1m gets his 1m, then the other 14m goes to CCP. The person selling the ship for 1m doesn't suddenly get more than what he asked for.

Or have they changed this?


Ive checked it myself and he gets all the isks.
Tesal
#6 - 2012-12-21 01:17:00 UTC
Thats why people adjust their order to .01isk better than the competition. They do that all day long in Jita.
Rengerel en Distel
#7 - 2012-12-21 02:26:44 UTC
Yeah, i'd assume nearly everyone that frequents this forum would know that.

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
GenBlase
EVE University
Ivy League
#8 - 2012-12-21 02:54:16 UTC
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
Yeah, i'd assume nearly everyone that frequents this forum would know that.



Do you think that is good?

I would think that the consumer would want to buy from a good corp if possible. Sending the directly to the person who brought it rather than the person who has the lowest sale price at the time.
Rogue Mennace
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2012-12-21 05:17:19 UTC
GenBlase wrote:
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
Yeah, i'd assume nearly everyone that frequents this forum would know that.



Do you think that is good?

I would think that the consumer would want to buy from a good corp if possible. Sending the directly to the person who brought it rather than the person who has the lowest sale price at the time.


Then go make a contract.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#10 - 2012-12-21 08:25:20 UTC
Rogue Mennace wrote:
GenBlase wrote:
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
Yeah, i'd assume nearly everyone that frequents this forum would know that.



Do you think that is good?

I would think that the consumer would want to buy from a good corp if possible. Sending the directly to the person who brought it rather than the person who has the lowest sale price at the time.


Then go make a contract.


This.


An exchange should be anonymous and it's not made to please you but to create a self-optimizing spread reducing mechanism.

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S h a d o w
#11 - 2012-12-21 08:41:20 UTC
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
everyone that frequents this forum would know that

Yeah...I knew.
Dave stark
#12 - 2012-12-21 09:14:18 UTC
Razor Rocker wrote:
actually I'm fairly sure it works that the person who put up the ship for 1m gets his 1m, then the other 14m goes to CCP. The person selling the ship for 1m doesn't suddenly get more than what he asked for.

Or have they changed this?


must have changed.

a few weeks ago, before it spiked, i was listing pyerite for ~13.75 isk/unit and i ended up recieving 13.9 and 14isk/unit for all of my pyerite.

so, from the fact i got 2 different values for my order, it must have changed.
Una Achura
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-12-21 11:59:14 UTC
Dave stark wrote:
Razor Rocker wrote:
actually I'm fairly sure it works that the person who put up the ship for 1m gets his 1m, then the other 14m goes to CCP. The person selling the ship for 1m doesn't suddenly get more than what he asked for.

Or have they changed this?


must have changed.

a few weeks ago, before it spiked, i was listing pyerite for ~13.75 isk/unit and i ended up recieving 13.9 and 14isk/unit for all of my pyerite.

so, from the fact i got 2 different values for my order, it must have changed.


If this has "changed" it changed more than 3 years ago, beacuse it's always been like this as long as I've been playing...
Kha'Vorn
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-12-21 12:25:48 UTC
Una Achura wrote:


If this has "changed" it changed more than 3 years ago, beacuse it's always been like this as long as I've been playing...


Yup me too. Been like this as long as I can remember.
GreenSeed
#15 - 2012-12-21 13:29:53 UTC  |  Edited by: GreenSeed
"free markets" as in, markets with no or low taxes, broker fees, rules and regulations, do exist. in those markets you can do all sorts of things. but since they trend to distort themselves no one cares for them, except tv economists who like to sound smart by talking about the "free market".

regulated markets, and straight private markets are much more appealing.

the eve market is a public market, regulated by concord, they collect taxes and in exchange they offer the "ui" to browse it, and brokerage services.

if you don't like it, you can always get a taste of the "free market" by spamming local. :D
flakeys
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-12-21 15:20:29 UTC
GenBlase wrote:
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
Yeah, i'd assume nearly everyone that frequents this forum would know that.



Do you think that is good?

I would think that the consumer would want to buy from a good corp if possible. Sending the directly to the person who brought it rather than the person who has the lowest sale price at the time.


A build raven is a build raven , no matter who makes it there is totally NO difference.This ain't reall life ...

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Willmahh
#17 - 2012-12-21 16:06:02 UTC
it has always been this way (using the ibis as the example):



if you put an ibis up for sale in a station that has other ibis's for sale, you HAVE to buy the lowest priced one from that station.

if you select a higher prices ibis (when lower prices exist in the same station), the sale will go to the lowest seller and you will get their ibis, they will get your money.

the lowest priced sell order always wins.

the highest prices buy order ( that is within range) wins.

that is how it should be.

if you want to buy from specific people... then make the deal outside the market screen,
z Flint
z Mining Corp
#18 - 2012-12-21 16:46:30 UTC
GenBlase wrote:
Did you know it is Market mechanics to give the money to the lowest seller? Even if I wanted to buy it from someone else?

For example, I put up a sell order for an Ibis for 15 million isk. I then go buy the same ibis but the isk does not go to the seller, but the lowest seller on the market. If he is selling the ship for 1 isk, he gets 15 million isk.

I dont think this is fair.


If you wanted the same ship back you should have just cancelled the sell order. You would be out the fees but not all that isk.
Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
#19 - 2012-12-22 11:17:35 UTC
Razor Rocker wrote:
actually I'm fairly sure it works that the person who put up the ship for 1m gets his 1m, then the other 14m goes to CCP. The person selling the ship for 1m doesn't suddenly get more than what he asked for.

Or have they changed this?


I'm fairly sure that that was never the case.
Tsobai Hashimoto
State War Academy
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-12-23 10:50:47 UTC
Damn and I always thought i was teaching jita market traders a lesson by not buying the one .03 cents cheaper!!!!
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