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Account sharing, a change is needed

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Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
#41 - 2012-12-20 22:34:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Aidan Brooder
Mishraile Viliana wrote:
There isn't really anything to prevent you from sharing your account. Just ask yourself, if you ask your wife/husband, girlfriend/boyfriend to change your skills or even quickly log in a character to do something and they do this from a location and even computer that you use regularly how is CCP goint to tell that it is an different person then the one the account is registered to?

The main reason that there is a rule that forbids accountsharing is to make sure that you have responsibility for anything that happens with your account and that you cannot hold CCP responsible if the person you decide to trust with your accountinformation decided to steal/destroy everything you have on it, gets you banned for whatever reason or just uses your charecter to really **** of everyone in game to the extent they will hunt you down at any opportunity. And because of this most game will forbid accountsharing mostly to protect themselves from people trying to blame them because they themselves trusted the wrong people.


Lets be honest:
The main reason why most companies forbid account sharing, even if you can have (depending on game) 4-8 full characters in theory - unlike in EVE:
It makes more money! ;) A family of four should goddamn have four accounts!
(...well, of course if they dooo that... different question...)

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Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2012-12-20 22:38:27 UTC
Mr Pragmatic wrote:
CausticS0da wrote:
It's to protect against account theft and people complaining to CCP when things get stolen. The effect is that you're welcome to share your information with others if you want but can't blame CCP if things go wrong.

Nobody cares if you're in 'duh military' or not ... You're not special so I don't get where you get your sense of entitlement from.



People in the military are entitlement to special treatment, they sacrifice THEIR rights so you can have yours.
It doesn't matter what military you are in.

thanks! it was really funny to read Lol

"they sacrifice... for your rights" oh....

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Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2012-12-20 22:45:32 UTC
Mr Pragmatic wrote:

People in the military are entitlement to special treatment, they sacrifice THEIR rights so you can have yours.
It doesn't matter what military you are in.

I want to take this opportunity to thank all members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard for sacrificing their rights so I can have ... oh wait Shocked

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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#44 - 2012-12-20 23:57:13 UTC
I would have asked my sister to update my skill queue while I was in Iraq, but the thought of EPIC alt spy caused me more stress than peace, so I planned a 24 day skill and left it as something to look forward to when I got home.

lol Vera

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Shalia Ripper
#45 - 2012-12-21 00:21:42 UTC
My reason to want account sharing is that I would like to share my 2nd account with my son that lives in another state.

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Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#46 - 2012-12-21 00:25:53 UTC
Parents sharing with children is an exception to the account sharing rule.

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Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#47 - 2012-12-21 00:28:49 UTC
Guys guys guys!

Bunk this whooooole convo and lets all start talking about the REAL solution to this problem.

Pushing out the full CREST API that will then allow us to write apps that could potentially let us change skills with something like a smart phone or any other internet capable device.

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Mund Richard
#48 - 2012-12-21 00:36:24 UTC
Acac Sunflyier wrote:
CausticS0da wrote:
Nobody cares if you're in 'duh military' or not ... You're not special so I don't get where you get your sense of entitlement from.
Well I've made multiple requests for skill queues to be linked to eve gate for just such people.
For those horrible-horrible people who do not use the search function for long enough to find an answer from CCP... What did they say?

"We want PvE activities to require active participation and mirror PvP more closely." Stacking penalty for NPC EWAR then? Lock range under 9km from over 100 in a BS is not fun. Nor is two NPC web drones making me crawl 10m/s. PvP SW-900 x5: 75m/s.
Julius Priscus
#49 - 2012-12-21 00:40:22 UTC
The Lady Nighthawk wrote:
1. If you share an account, you should be able to mark it in your account management. I.e a button saying *account is shared*
2. If your account is robbed, CCP should ban the player who robbed it but none of your stuff will be returned



So you share your account with me and I go out and loose your 7b isk mission ship to a kill right. I say **** OFF and you aint getting **** back. that would be YOUR fault for sharing your account.

I am sure as hell convinced this would open more cans of worms than close.

NO to your idea you idiot. speaking of idiots look up goshee in game I am sure he has a place for you in his new alliance.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#50 - 2012-12-21 00:42:05 UTC
Xercodo wrote:
Guys guys guys!

Bunk this whooooole convo and lets all start talking about the REAL solution to this problem.

Pushing out the full CREST API that will then allow us to write apps that could potentially let us change skills with something like a smart phone or any other internet capable device.


This, basically.

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Alec Stacer
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#51 - 2012-12-21 00:43:14 UTC
I play this game on more than 1 computer, with 2 accounts. How can CCP determine whether or not its me or my little brother. Even though he can't even figure out how to leave the station, he could very well be logging into my account on his computer when Im not home.
Zol Interbottom
Blimp Requisition Services
#52 - 2012-12-21 02:30:02 UTC
Mr Pragmatic wrote:
CausticS0da wrote:
It's to protect against account theft and people complaining to CCP when things get stolen. The effect is that you're welcome to share your information with others if you want but can't blame CCP if things go wrong.

Nobody cares if you're in 'duh military' or not ... You're not special so I don't get where you get your sense of entitlement from.



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People in the military are entitlement to special treatment, they sacrifice THEIR rights so you can have yours.
It doesn't matter what military you are in.


Anyways, I don't see the problem with account sharing amongst friends. As long as you keep it legit and not screwing your friend over.


no they arent, they break the rules they deserve to be banned like everyone else

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Disciple Amphal
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#53 - 2012-12-21 02:42:00 UTC
Unofficially you can share your account. You more than likely wont get banned.

Just don't complain when the person you share your account with gets sticky fingers.

EDIT: you're?!?!?!?!?!
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#54 - 2012-12-21 02:53:20 UTC
Disciple Amphal wrote:
Just don't complain when the person you share your account with gets sticky fingers.

EDIT: you're?!?!?!?!?!

It's "your".

"You're" is a contraction for "you are", which is why it doesn't make sense in the context: "the person you share you are account with".

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Disciple Amphal
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#55 - 2012-12-21 03:18:02 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Disciple Amphal wrote:
Just don't complain when the person you share your account with gets sticky fingers.

EDIT: you're?!?!?!?!?!

It's "your".

"You're" is a contraction for "you are", which is why it doesn't make sense in the context: "the person you share you are account with".


Cool. I initially had "you're" thus the edit.

I don't need your help bro!
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#56 - 2012-12-21 03:47:42 UTC
Andski wrote:
Xercodo wrote:
Guys guys guys!

Bunk this whooooole convo and lets all start talking about the REAL solution to this problem.

Pushing out the full CREST API that will then allow us to write apps that could potentially let us change skills with something like a smart phone or any other internet capable device.


This, basically.


My god, I could never log into eve again yet still play it.

Devs get on this stat!
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#57 - 2012-12-21 03:48:53 UTC
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Andski wrote:
Xercodo wrote:
Guys guys guys!

Bunk this whooooole convo and lets all start talking about the REAL solution to this problem.

Pushing out the full CREST API that will then allow us to write apps that could potentially let us change skills with something like a smart phone or any other internet capable device.


This, basically.


My god, I could never log into eve again yet still play it.

Devs get on this stat!


http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=73971

beta is live :D

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dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#58 - 2012-12-21 09:06:11 UTC
Xercodo wrote:
Guys guys guys!

Bunk this whooooole convo and lets all start talking about the REAL solution to this problem.

Pushing out the full CREST API that will then allow us to write apps that could potentially let us change skills with something like a smart phone or any other internet capable device.


If this functionality is added to the CREST API, why not just remove the skill queue?

Being able to make training plans that runs for years, and automatically updates the in-game skill queue, would mean that the queue is no longer needed.

Why maintain the in-game skill queue code, and also develop and maintain the CREST functionality, if it's not needed?

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Andracin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#59 - 2012-12-21 13:42:30 UTC
I've been in the military for 9 years and played eve for over 6 of it. I don't believe that military members should be entitled to any additional advantages in terms of skill queing. As others have pointed out before the skill que's you had to either constantly switch skills or get up at odd hours to change skills. If you are deploying or going on a field exercise, train all for racial bs to 4, then when you leave put one on 5 when you leave, if you expect to be gone longer train a capital or freighter skill to 5. And if your account goes a month or two with Shockedno trainingShocked it is not the end of the world. Companies that extend certain discounts or advantages to military members do so out of their own free will. Coming on the forums and complaining about disadvantages you experience due to your chosen profession and asking CCP to make concessions to you make you look less like a warrior and more like the orphan boy Oliver asking "please sir can I have some more". Maybe that was not your intent, but that is certainly the way it came across.
RomeStar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#60 - 2012-12-21 14:06:40 UTC
CausticS0da wrote:
Nobody cares if you're in 'duh military' or not ... You're not special so I don't get where you get your sense of entitlement from.



Yeah you go pick up a rifle and walk the wire or were you born with a silver spoon up your arse. Men have died so you can post this crap so respect it.

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