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How long before you moved to low/null sec?

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Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#41 - 2012-12-20 22:25:37 UTC
Chelly Tau wrote:

1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?


1. I was in low sec doing plexes on my first day. I moved to null sec in under a month, I think.
2. I moved to null sec with 2 corp mates, but was mostly alone for it. "Hey, move here".
3. It was fine
4. In null sec, join a Blobs McBlobber alliance and do the Blobs McBlobber stuff. In low sec, use your D-Scan. Anyone in local *IS* actually there to kill you.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#42 - 2012-12-20 22:40:21 UTC
In order

1. About 6-8 months
2. Corp decided to move from mission running to trying out NPC nullsec
3. I think i personally could have done it a lot earlier but i was happy with what i was doing at the time, overall it was a lot of fun and we learned a lot about pvp. Eventually led to us trying out piracy and the rest is history.

4. Lowsec first
Dont be afraid but do keep your wits about you.
Do your research and find out who lives in the local area and what they do.
Only you can decide if you're ready to make the move, dont let anyone else put you off by claiming you arent ready.
Talk to people you meet who already live there, quite a lot of us are actually nice guys who'll give you good advice, of course we might blow you up first but hey, thats Eve.

Nullsec
Everything above plus try to make sure you have a plan to get your **** out if something goes wrong.

Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin

you're welcome
terzho
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#43 - 2012-12-21 00:12:40 UTC
1. Started the game, 2 weeks later moved to null
2. My CEO helped me.
3. It worked out pretty well for me.
4. Find a friend. This game is terrible if you're by yourself.
Fractal Muse
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2012-12-21 00:41:35 UTC
Chelly Tau wrote:

1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?


Thanks in advance for those who’d like to chime in on any of the points above.

1. On my tenth day of play I went to 0.0

2. I joined a corp where a friend of mine who helped me finally start EVE properly was. He is still an amazing person and also plays to this day. We joined a small corp with great aspirations - the usual ones in that they wanted to 'own' their own space. Many of the the people that I met in that corp are still my friends both in the game and out of it.

3. I feel that I wasted a day before going to 0.0 but I think it was a busy RL day so I didn't manage to get down there on day 9.

4. Go. Just go. Ignore anyone who claims you need to have X skill points or Y time played. You don't. The only thing I would suggest is completing the tutorials so you have a good idea on how to play and head on out. Find a small corp with cool people and get going.

Going to 0.0 was the best decision ever.
Santiago Fahahrri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2012-12-21 00:52:20 UTC
1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?

About 3 months

2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?

I joined a corp. That corp was part of an alliance. I understood very little of all that at the time.

3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?

Meh - about right.

4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?

Do it. You can't learn to live there from the forums. You don't have to pick the "right" group to join first, just get out there. Once you learn to survive in Null you can define your own path.
Ayuren Aakiwa
When i Look Up At The Stars I Am Filled With Rage
#46 - 2012-12-21 01:23:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Ayuren Aakiwa
Took about 3-4 months I think, and I did it the old fashioned way by going into lowsec in a rifter and dying horribly. I've upgraded from the rifter but still die horribly What?

Edit: To actually answer the questions in the op
-I went in solo but formed a corp about a month later
-In retrospect I should have left hisec immediately after finishing the tutorials
-Advice would be to just go and do it, hisec is no fun once you get the taste of blood Cool
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
#47 - 2012-12-21 01:33:40 UTC
My case is the exception, not the rule and doesn't even apply now. I started back in 2005 and EVE was a different game then. The 20K server load was a record. Null space really was empty.

I also got a Daredevil BPC in my first week of EVE and I built it, got the skills to fly it and did. Daredevil frigates are super fast to warp and pretty much impossible to catch. They were then and they still are if you are flying evasive. Because of that Daredevil I was in Low sec in the first week and I lived there for 2 years. I "sucked" at EVE for those two years but I had a lot more fun "sucking" at EVE than I ever had playing the epeen war I am forced to play now that being a noob isn't an option. Again because of the different EVE I don't know if someone new could take a Daredevil to low sec and survive for 2 years. It's a different game.

As for Null it's a gank-a-boy game. It always has been. I just didn't know it back then. Innocence lost, never to be returned. In reading this you can say so is yours. You might chose to go there and find out for yourself but you know in the back of your mind you won't succeed there at even a minimal level without a blob bigger than the blob you compete against.

If you asking for direction, I'd suggest Red Vs Blue to start. It's PvP without the epeen, player ran and may one day evolve in to more.

If your quest is a Null empire, as said, kow tow to the blobs because you won't beat them without a bigger blob. Just the unfortunate limit the game has. Many have tried to tech out smaller alliances, many have failed. Blobs rule EVE.

R.I.P. Vile Rat
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#48 - 2012-12-21 04:18:02 UTC
Two days in highsec, the rest of my time in null. There was a short period where Goonwaffe had a group of players following lowsec incursions around like a pack of very rich gypsies but that died out with the nerfs.

I am just now finding my pvp niche however (Small cloak gang), my computer sucked until recently so the big fleet fights usually consisted of me flying a logistics ship because by the time I locked primaries they were generally already dead, or just not going.
Shamus O'Reilly
Candy Cabal
#49 - 2012-12-21 06:00:02 UTC
Chelly Tau wrote:
As a player who is just over a month into EVE, I like reading up on a lot of game mechanics and things of all sorts related to all aspects of the game. When it comes to low/null though, the stuff I find is mostly about current state of affairs and general talk about running a corp in low/null, but not as much about certain aspects of a player’s experience when they first made the move to settle down in low/null. So, just a few things I’d like to ask those that are now (or were once) settled in low/null:

1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?


Thanks in advance for those who’d like to chime in on any of the points above.

1: 1 month into playing. only left low for hisec wardecs (which ended in a waste of time sans one fleet fight). its just so much more profitable down here (im not talking piracy actually with this)

2: Our corp had joined our current alliance a week after we started the move.

3: Looking back i honestly think it was the best decision i've made and our corp has made. Just at the right time for a few of our members as learning PVP from the start made us understand EVE better and how PVP will never leave the game. since i started PVPing i dont worry about losing ships as much anymore (in fact i rarely worry about ship losses).

4: If youre planning to make the move. make sure youre going to have trustworthy blues and PVP experience (or someone who can teach you). A good group of buds on teamspeak can make it that much more fun once you do. The new PVP mechanics of lowsec just make things more fast paced and fun also. I make bolder choices now that i can fly around in frigates and dessies easily. That and the Talwar is just hilariously fun!

(P.S. im talking lowsec here. not null... not hisec. But low. ya know, that forsaken land where mission running mining indie etc are worthless and a waste of time and PVP is only for pirates and FW? Yeah thats a lie... From day 1 of being down in lowsec i can make 2 to 3 times what i can in hisec. And if i need sec status or quick isk, nullsec ratting is a couple gates away).

"I swear there are more people complaining over "nullsecers complaining" then actual nullsec people complaining."
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#50 - 2012-12-21 06:04:39 UTC
Low/null is like a single word these days, but people are still forgetting WHs Smile

Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
Shadow Cartel
#51 - 2012-12-21 06:33:17 UTC
Chelly Tau wrote:


1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?

1. About a month, maybe a little less.
2. Did it through a corp, but it wasnt an established null one. Multi-game-clan that restarted their EVE arm shortly before I joined, they did a little bit of everything with an anti-pirate arm of PVP, thus the lowsec.
3. Wouldn't have changed a thing.
4. It goes beyond getting over fear, it's understanding there's nothing to be afraid of. Find some good people to teach you and accept that you'll lose ships while you learn. Fly cheap, have fun.

Alek the Kidnapper, Hero of the CSM
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2012-12-21 06:33:34 UTC
moved to 0.0 after 1 year of game
joined existing corp (still have contacts with them)
returned to high-sec after another 1 year and don't want to visit 0.0 again. it's too boring there

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Optimo Sebiestor
The New Eden School of trade
Organization of Skill Extracting Corporations
#53 - 2012-12-21 07:48:19 UTC
1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?

When I first started to play this game, it took about 3 months before i moved into null.

2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?

I was recruited by a corporation that was in its final stages of moving.

3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?

It felt like a natural development at the time.

4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?

Have an open mind, don't fuzz over losses. It's a learning expirience :) Nowadays you have a station in every system almost. Back when I moved down the first time, we all lived in pos's. Wich was kinda fun back then.
Goran Konjich
Krompany
#54 - 2012-12-21 08:35:25 UTC
None.

5 years at Dodixie -> straight to a Wormhole

(it's the same actually Lol)

I'm a diplomat. Sometimes i throw 425mm wide briefcases at enemy. Such is EVE.
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#55 - 2012-12-21 11:47:20 UTC
Chelly Tau wrote:
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?.


Fly something you can afford to lose...


I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
Gibbo5771
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#56 - 2012-12-21 13:50:57 UTC
1. About 3-4 month into the game I went pirate, then I eventually started hiting up nullsec some months later.
2. I joined a corp in lowsec called Blood Money Inc, I flew mostly solo and still do to this day.
3. Not quick enough, I should have been out pvp'in as soon as I had my first 10million isk.
4. Dont become a mindless blobber or someone who sits on a titan all day in lowsec, small gang/solo is the way forward, learn from it.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#57 - 2012-12-21 14:13:26 UTC
Chelly Tau wrote:
As a player who is just over a month into EVE, I like reading up on a lot of game mechanics and things of all sorts related to all aspects of the game. When it comes to low/null though, the stuff I find is mostly about current state of affairs and general talk about running a corp in low/null, but not as much about certain aspects of a player’s experience when they first made the move to settle down in low/null. So, just a few things I’d like to ask those that are now (or were once) settled in low/null:

1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?


Thanks in advance for those who’d like to chime in on any of the points above.


My progression was I think pretty Standard. I started out in the game as a mission runner (I still remember my excitement at earning enough for my 1st navy Raven after 2 months) and did that solo for a few months. Met some mission running dudes and joined their corp. 1 dude in corp had a couple friends in BoB so we went with them on a roam through null sec (my 1st pvp actioon, got on my 1st kill mail, lost my 1st Brutix), but i mostly stayed in empire running missions.

The Faction Warfare came out and i joined the 1st day, it was REALLY cool, Gallente militia had 3 full fleets out that very 1st day. Did that for a few months, joined a couple corps over that time, got bored, left gal militia for minnie milita, was going back to Gal militia when a friend in the Gal militia said "hey, we're gonna kill some carriers, join my corp for a day and you can leave tomorrow afterwards.

I ended up staying for 2 years :) . We went to Syndicate, made some friends, formed an alliance , joined with some other Alliances to make a coalition, then tried to Invade Cloud Ring, took a couple systems ran out of many and disbanded lol. My corp left the alliance we made and went to join ATLAS, then living in the Omist (ie West Bumfreak Egypt) region.

So, call it about a year of nothing but high Sec, then the past 4 years of Low and null with a bit of Wormhole here and there.
Tali Ambraelle
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2012-12-21 14:31:00 UTC
1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?

Never. No plan to. Dealing with belligerent undesirables is not my idea of fun.

2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?

Neither. I stay in high sec and make more isk than the sociopaths in low Smile

3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?

None of the above, as I have not moved.

4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?

Don't do it. High sec is all you truly need. You'll just be blobbed and pushed around by psychos in lowsec. Enjoy the civilization of high sec. Pay no mind to the undesirables screaming about fake riches out in the bad lands. Smile
Dgram Loop
Dutch Squad
#59 - 2012-12-21 14:55:54 UTC
1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
2 months after being in 3 HS corps that all failcascaded within weeks I went straight to wspace.

2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
A few weeks by myself in a C2 at first then I joined the rest of the corp in a C4

3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
Just the right time, being able to fly a battlecruiser somewhat properly and having made an alt already i was prepared to loose some ships and semicapable of refitting for much harder anomalies

4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
The same as several other posters here, dont be afraid to try something new and dont be surprised or give up when minor setbacks happen - like my first ever trip through a transient wormhole got me ganked, welcome to wspace \o/
“It's the journey, not the destination", staying in highsec means you're likely to keep doing the same things over and over and you don't really get to explore all the facets of eve
Subdolus Venator
State War Academy
Caldari State
#60 - 2012-12-21 15:28:57 UTC
Chelly Tau wrote:


1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?


Answers:
1. A couple years. Of course, I was away from the game / unsubscribed for most of that time, so... In reality, about six months. I started taking joyrides through Nul to get over my fears of losing ships, getting podded, etc. Then I discovered that Space Trollin' was fun. Since then, whenever I get bored... I log in on this alt and go mess with someone's head in Nul.

2. Stillin my n00b corp. I'm doing this purely solo, so don't need the support of a corp/alliance. If you plan on doing anthing notable, *other* than Space Trollin', get a corp membership. It makes a BIG difference.

3. Should moved out into Nul a LOT sooner. I'm currently based out of the Sisters of EVE Bureau in ROIR-Y II, which serves my trolling needs well.

4. Prepare to die. Seriously. LOTS. Get over your fear of being podded - It will only hold you back. Make no enemies that you do not have to make, but 'make enemies' before and over 'not having fun.' Fun is what keeps you coming back.


Fly Crazy!
S. Venator

EVE is EVE - Feaces will eventuate.