EVE General Discussion

An old man with a decent set of breasts. Now i've seen it all.

1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null? about a year to move to low full time.

2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp? I started by scouting low sec areas, decided on an area, than scouted corps that I wanted to join. Joined in with my corp of choice and moved all my goodies.

3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you? Waited too long. After moving to low, I have realized I never want to live in high sec again (for PVP or PVE). Even PVE is better in Low sec because of the increased risk. While there is not that much more reward, it certainly adds a level of excitement that is lacking in high sec.

4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null? Scout out and area and/or corp first. Finding the right corp is huge in moving out of high sec!

1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
I moved within the first couple weeks to the wilds of lowsec near Murethand.
Later after some time in high sec I moved to null sec and then back to high sec and then a wormhole and then high sec.
Now happily living in nullsec.

2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
The times I have moved to low and null have either been to join a corp or as part of a corp moving to null.

3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
I moved at a good time and even fondly remember the time I got trapped and killed in Abune by war targets back when it was a dead end system.

4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
Find yourself a corp and alliance that you enjoy being part of.

I moved to Null after 2 months of sitting docked in highsec as a part of Eve Uni. I had a Drake, 20million isk, and 4 million SP. I joined a small, growing corp that was part of an emerging alliance. Getting in early helped me develop and grow as the corp did, before I eventually went bitter vet and moved on. Its never to early to head to null, it just takes a good attitude and the ability to find something you enjoy doing (for me it was pvp).

My first null experience was 2008 in a russian alliance. I didn't last long for many reasons.

I then went back later in 2008 and joined BRUCE, then 3 months later they got curb stomped by goons.

I did some hi sec pvp and got into the faction wars thing for a while, then I experimented with some more alliances that aren't notable. I settled in Caldari FW for a long time. I began FCing in the caldari militia because we had a lot of drama and a low entry barrier

Then in 2011 I got into Wayfarer Stellar which was a member of the NC (the goon NC) and then the NC fail cascaded. I took an 8 month break after joining Wildly Inappropriate.

I got back for crucible and joined a young startup alliance Nightsong Directorate which made me their head FC about 24 hours later. I built the alliance's pvp infrastructure from the ground up and dealt with the internal drama. We were kicking ass for a few months with shield battleship (raven and maelstrom) blobs and drake gangs but then DnD started dropping us with fleets of armor Tech 3s with a crapload of guardians and we hit a wall with that.

I was in the process of retooling the alliance to do a Tengu fleet when we failcascaded due to more internal drama than an entire run of most soap operas.

And now I am a -9 point something pirate who lives in Esesier and does roams on the weekends to blow random faction wars people up.

All in all good times.

Cannot be unseen...

1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?


Almost immediately. I joined EvE Uni and screamed across teamspeak the first time I was chased by pirates in low sec. I did it without bookmarks and it was before warp to zero. I just wanted to see what low sec courier missions were like, and they paid really well at the time. I failed at least 1 out of 3 missions, and most of those agents still have me at a negative:D

We moved to null shortly thereafter as part of Big Blue.

2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?

I was by myself, but part of a corp that gave advice. Then we went to null and the real learning began:)

3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?

Perfect. Clones were cheap, frigates were plentiful.


4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?

Don't do it solo, unless you like to giggle. If you are going to live there, and not just the occasional roam, join a group. Make sure they either protect you while you earn the cash for new ships, or provide them as free replacements- otherwise you'll always be broke and using a high sec alt for mining or missioning to make isk.

Less than my trial account on my main. To be fair, it was my 3rd trial over a couple of months:
- First 15 days I learned the basics and took my last 1-2 days in a kestrel to venture inside lowsec.
- Second attempt had me going a bit more focused, was able to join a highsec corp but sadly did not sub just yet.
- 3rd attempt I "knew" what I was doing, managed to subscribe/fly a Caracal. Had read somewhere mission rewards were better in lower security systems, so I found the highest level 1-2 agents for Caldari Navy in lowsec and moved there. Lots of people called me insane, I did not understand why until I experienced my first few gate camps 2-3 months later. By then it was already too late, was part of a lowsec pirate corp and learned the ropes from them about survival and hunting.

Initially it was alone, towards the end of my 3rd trial I looked at the offices where I was docked in lowsec and applied to 2-3 corps which had interesting corp descriptions. One responded positively, albeit a bit suspicious. From my experience, most lowsec corps are quite new-player-friendly since they know they can still mold you into a great pilot as you do not come with a baggage of misconceptions - all you gotta do is show them your are ready to learn and willing to stay subscribed. 2-3 months down the road you are flying a T2 BC able to hold your ground in lowsec PVP + complete missions/plexes.

Good question. I always say I moved just fast enough. Had I stayed longer in highsec, I might have been molded in a more cautious player.

Learn to use the 360 scanner, it's like a second overview that is 14 au-wide. I use it everywhere, even in highsec. The 360 scanner is 50%+ of the intel. Make friends; by being friendly with the locals, you might gain access to their corp or their public channels. If you legitimately ask for help, be prepared to lose a few ships (keep in mind your reaction to those losses is key). You will also find potential friends are not the bigger established pirate corps; they will usually be the smaller fish who also have something to gain by helping you. In time, you can earn the respect of your enemies as well.

Lowsec IMHO is more interesting, easier to live there, and more fun. 0.0 blobs you are basically a very small cog, in a very large machine. In lowsec, you skills as a pilot matter. Its no surprise why so many veterans return to lowsec.

An easy first step is Faction Warfare.

Greetings o/

1. 3 months in HS + 5 months doing pvp in null but living in HS. Now living in null most of my time.
2. Joined an established corp, null npc.
3. I moved at the right time. Experienced before solo and small gang pvp.
4. If you are looking for a big change and a new adventure, go for it! You can go back if you like move around all sec-systems in EVE. it´s just about "moments" and depends on what you are looking for. I did for just one reason; pvp.

If you are looking for pvp and want feel like a free soul...;

Null npc & low > null sov
Small-solo gangs > fleet battles

My two cents , it´s just my opinion.