EVE General Discussion

Dec Shield... Effected how many corps out of how many in game? Hundreds out of tens of thousands?

NPC tax: easily avoidable by creating a player corp of 1. Get a war dec, just move to a new corp of 1.

PI taxes: I make 50 million ISK an hour mining or missioning. I make 50 million a month on high sec PI, when I bother restarting my extractors. Assuming 2 hours a day... 60 hours a month... that means the PI tax amounts to all of 1/600th of my monthly income.



I counter you "nerf didn't cause unsubs" with this. Those nerfs were FAR too small to get anyone to move from high sec to low or null. Those nerfs were FAR to small to satisfy those calling for a nerf of high sec.

So, when I say a "nerf of high sec will cause high sec carebears to quit", I'm talking about a nerf that is sufficiently large to satisfy those calling for a nerf of high sec, a nerf significant enough to "get people out of high sec", a nerf large enough to make the "risks" of null/low "worth it".


Otherwise, if we're not talking about a nerf on that scale, and we're talking about tiny little changes with insignificant impact, then my counter to calls of "nerf high sec" becomes "CCP already has. Did that make the game better for you? If so, why are you still crying? If not, then why do you think more nerfs will suddenly make you enjoy the game more?"

You know what, you are correct for once.

I don't know why I would have gotten the impression that you were a 20-something, maybe the complete lack of an ability to read for comprehension instead of the obvious need to be right on the internet makes you seem younger than you are.

So you're telling me you have no evidence lol. If i were a prosecutor I would WISH you were my opposing defense counsel lol.

#1 isn't evidence because we KNOW lots of high sec characters (like half of mine) are Alts. The true "high sec only" player is probably a lot rarer than you want to believe.

2, 3 and 4 don't even qualify as anecdotal evidence and even if they did, anyone with an elementary school knowldege of logic knows that anecdotal evidence isn't evidence.

5 and 6 are simply bad perceptions on your part, you "seeing what you want to see" rather than considering any alternative (not that high sec only people are the only ones who do this, many people do, and they are just as wrong)
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As for your question of what evidence do I have?

CCP nerfed incursions making the high sec incursion communities a shadow of their former selves, yet here is no indication of unsubs. CCP basically nerfed lvl 4s when they changes how stuff drops and drone poo etc etc, yet no evidence of unsubs. CCP fixed the mistakes that allowed people to have high sec lvl 5 missions, yet no revidence of massive unsubs.

And ccp just changed the way AI works affecting all (non-incursion/non-wormhole) combat pve , with a BIG change to high sec's most popular pve activity (lvl 4 missions). Where is the evidence of unsubs?

EVE has grown despite every direct and indirect nerf to high sec, again the ONLY time there have been noticeable unsubs was during monocle gate and the T20 scandal. Would y7ou like to go over to EVE offline and prove me wrong (you can't just sayin lol).

Obviously you form opinions from emotion rather than empirical evidence, like many a high sec dude. And that's the problem real, high sec culture revolves around emotion rather than fact, people who are attracted to low/null/WHs are generally (but not always) people who are better with dealing with in-game realities and critical thinking, because the game is a whole lot less forgiving one you leave 0.5 and above space..

When a large portion of those 'abundance of posts' comes from the members of one alliance, it makes it hard to take seriously as a call for actual balance.

You do pay CCP for your account when you use PLEX... You just do so indirectly.
If all paid for their account with money, none would buy PLEX.
If you pay your game time with PLEX, it just means: Someone paid for (at least) two accounts, to buy something shiny. Ships.

If noone wanted shiny, noone buys PLEX, all have to pay for their account with money.

As simple as that... CCP gets their money in any case... PLEX is just another trade good in the end.
Though in some cases I liked it better back when there were no PLEX...

A SELECT DISTINCT name from these continuously spammed threads would reveal the same 7-8 names, 4-5 of which belonging to a strongly interested lobby.

The problem is, that there is a very small percentage of players following the forums anyway.
If any CCP personnel takes this as a representation of the opinion the playerbase has, I think they would be fools.

This already happens. There are several ships to choose from that can fit a covops cloak, and you can basically live in and harass nullsec players right now using those existing tool. I would recommend bringing a friend with a blockade runner to carry extra ammo.

How does NPC Null not provide any of that?

You are doing an awful job to contradict & misunderstand... And I have better things to do.
Well, then lets agree that all is well in Null Sec. Constant adventure and myriads of opponents and the total empire feel.
I think CCP can give a long christmas break to their devs now...