Science & Industry

*posting on an alt out of research corp for my safety *

I understand that with having a rented station in same system as POS i can undertake remote researching, lots of resources about this on the internets.

However im struggling to find information about researching in a POS without a station.

So i assume i can do ME / PE and copying by manually inserting a BPO into a mobile lab.

What happens if im wardecced, am i able to cancel the job and retrieve the blueprint?

Any circumstances where a BPO can be lost?

I do intend to remote research, but for the short term im unable to get any offices in the same system my POS is going to be in.

Do i need a corporate hanger to insert a blueprint into a lab? or can i just do this from my ship?


Thanks in advance

thanks so if i cancel a job, the bpo is ejected into pos shields, with i assume the work lost?

can i also copy as well as do ME / PE research?

thanks

Yes you can do all POS activities directly from the POS arrays without a station office.

The issue is having your BPO's in the POS means if it gets destroyed they can drop as loot. This makes bashing your POS possibly profitable.

Anyone who is looking for such a POS to attack can find you very easy. If you see a POS with labs anchored and online, and the corp that owns the POS does not have an office in that system (very easy to check) then they know any BPO's being researched are in the POS.

They do have to war dec you to bash your POS. And if they do you have 24 hours before they can actually attack. But it is much more complicated than that. There are a few problems this will cause you.

- Is there ever a time when nobody capable of taking down the POS is online for more than 24 hours? According to Murphy's law that is when they will hit you.

- They can watch your POS for a few days and get as many of your corp members on their watchlist as they can. they can then monitor your corp to determine what time zone you are in, or at least when you are normally online. They can then war dec you you at a time just after you log off. If you only play at night and do not get on to check things in the morning, especially if you have a job or school and can not get on. When you return the following evening you may only have a few hours before they can attack you. Or worse if you are often not on for more than 24 hours you could log on and your POS is already gone. It does happen. Their are grievers in EVE that live only to do such things.

- When you get war decced and need to take down your POS you have to cancel all jobs. When you cancel the job you get nothing fron it. You could have a BPO in the cooker for 25 days and have to cancel the job 1-2 days before it completes. If so you get no benefit from the 23-24 days it was in. unless the job finishes you get zero benefit.

- Once it becomes known that your corp does this, the corp and all known members, even after leaving the corp will be on many of these grievers watchlists.

A pinata POS, i.e. a POS loaded with loot. Which is what your POS would be if you did this, will draw a lot of attention. There is a chance you will get left alone. But the stories you hear of high sec war decs and POS bashing come for players who took this risk.

If you do decide to take this risk, A small POS would be a bad idea. They can be taken down quickly with a small fleet. 4 high DPS battleships can do it in about an hour. If you go with a large POS with hardeners and ECM you have a much better chance as it will take them many hours to take it down unless they have a huge fleet. Most grievers are not that well organized and can not field more than 4-6 ships at a time. Especially when it is a online POS that might be defended.

If you look around there are many systems with stations that have cheap rentals. Any station that has poor services and no level 4 agents usually has low rental fee's. The trick is finding one in a system with an open moon. If you do decide to go ahead with your plan. Setting up a research POS without a station office, if you go with a medium or large POS with some defenses at least anchored (hardeners and ECM are a better deterrent than guns) and put it is a dead end system that does not receive a lot of traffic you should avoid any unwanted attention.

Your labs will have the same corporate hanger divisions that your offices have. Drag the BPO from your ship's cargo to the appropriate hanger tab in the lab and set the job to start from there. The dialog box to start your research job asks you to chose where the job starts from and gets delivered to.

Yes. The BPO is dropped into the output hanger (the one you chose when you started the job). Additional items such as datacores, reports and datasheets are lost.

When the POS is destroyed, and the labs are destroyed, BPO have a chance to drop in the wrecks of the labs. As others have pointed out, you run the risk of being seen as a loot piñata. If you have insufficient defenses, they may just wardec you to see what falls out when bashed.

Please do a search on the forums for "dickstar" as that is a style of setting up your POS defense that is suitable for high sec. Sample with links to other threads. Don't be silly and put only cruise missile arrays for defense in high sec (they can barely hit anything allowed to fly in high sec) like one tower I saw did (they still lost their POS). Since people tend to use Caldari towers for the CPU bonuses for the labs, the same towers have a great bonus to ECM, which makes them good choices for dickstars.

Just remember that people can see (and do check) if POS's in highsec that have alot of labs have an office in the station(s) in the system. If someone sees that you have a bunch of labs in a POS but do not have an office in the system it means you have a bunch of BPO's just sitting in your labs waiting to be taken.