EVE General Discussion

You will need to turn the wheel 2x clockwise and 3x counterclockwise to get dx11 working on your machine

Then T-bag died and no new episodes came out. I think I got the joy of waiting for, what, the last three in 2007?

Basically CCP has to maintain 2 clients, like in the past with classic and premium.
They where really happy to be able to ditch the classic client.

Why not having 2 clients then ? A DX9 one and a DX11 one. I know a very popular MMORPG that has 2 clients so everybody is happy. In addition with Windows 8 the latest version of DirectX isn't DX11 anymore but DX11.1

CCP's version control, code management and regression testing systems are already pushed past the breaking point with their single PC client version. Look at the bugs that get re-introduced and previously working features broken with each patch over the past five years. CCP managing the code base and testing regimen for two clients?

Also, Windows 8? Is anybody using that OS on a traditional PC?

Another idea of CCP ,maybe they gonna work on it ,only to be whined at by some of the playersbase and then put it on the backburner for live

don,t expect to see DX11 for the next 10 years .
by that time ,we are asking DX15 support and people with DX9 machines are crying not to do it

Most of the people advocating for hardware tessellation don't really know what they're talking about.

Hardware tessellation is just the ability of a graphics card to add new detail to an object when needed by subdividing it. Instead of defining all your models as faces of polygons you define a function for the larger object and the graphics card approximates it in real time using polygons.

It won't make anything pretty unless you really know what you're doing. It's just a new way of doing LOD calculations.

So when you warp into a deadspace complex with tons of asteroids, buildings and clouds then you will see the benefit of tesselation.

By that I mean, it will have much faster FPS.

You're right about the "not much prettier" part, but I hate the lag that happens when I warp into a "busy" place...

tesselation should actualy be a VERY important goal no matter what the player base is playing the game with. Roll it out when you guys are ready but please dont act like those with DX11 want to wait for those XP users to die off. srs, I want tesselation.

I'd really like to know why people are in so much hurry to get DX11 or tesselation support.

When do you actually look at ships so close, that you could see the effects of tesselation? Reminds me of a Crysis video where they showed a tesselated frog jumping in the woods. How often do you stop in a fps game to watch a tiny frog (which you can't even shoot)?

And the other question, what are the benefits of DX11 in comparison to DX9 right now? If you have DX11 capable card, it already gives you more than enough fps to run smoothly in any situation, even the cheapest ones.

Honestly, I think it's a waste of time to think about DX11 now. It will come later ofcourse, as it should, but there might be some other more pressing issues to use developer time right now. It almost feels like people don't understand anything about DX11. It really isn't that much of a leap from what you can do with DX9, and it won't automagically make everything look a hundred times better just by changing the supported number. And the API is so much different, that' you can't do it like you could when moving from 8->9 (just change few calls and add few parameters here and there).

I invested in a new pc and graphics card(s) because of some games that I wanted to play. Now I have an uber water cooled machine that can run almost infinite amounts of EVE clients with CQ enabled. That EVE's graphics are kept back from their full potential by a bunch of cheap ass players that refuse to upgrade their ZX Spectrums is plain stupid