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Communism in EVE?

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Lupus Borealis Quasar
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-12-20 12:02:51 UTC
Is it possible? 100% tax? Might require some RP attitude? Lol
CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
#2 - 2012-12-20 12:09:52 UTC
I've heard of it being attempted, but I don't know how much it succeeded.

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Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-12-20 12:10:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Snow Axe
edit: I'm a bad

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Nex apparatu5
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2012-12-20 12:12:57 UTC
One of the larger corps in PL is communist.
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#5 - 2012-12-20 12:14:06 UTC
I've known several corps that do it and thrive pretty well.
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#6 - 2012-12-20 12:29:24 UTC
As in a real life, it works to the exact same extent that the members of the group really want it to.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Darvaleth Sigma
Imperial Security Hegemony
#7 - 2012-12-20 12:36:55 UTC
I wish it was fully possible. It'd make everyone happy, after all.

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Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-12-20 12:40:58 UTC
Lupus Borealis Quasar wrote:
Is it possible? 100% tax? Might require some RP attitude? Lol



Its seen , but they'll never grow as big as Goonswarm.
people are just selfish .

They don't commit their free time to a corp just so they can see someone else pew pew their money away

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Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-12-20 12:44:19 UTC
Evolution is known to run very high tax rates - sometimes 100% and often in the 70-80% range.

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Felicity Love
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-12-20 12:45:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Felicity Love
Hmmm... real communism or the watered down version European intelligentsia like to fantasize about in their Ivory Towers? With themselves at the "top", of course. Blink

Noting, however, the "fantasy" part, since in any real effort at Communism it's usually the intelligentsia that are "first against the wall"... threat to the "State" and all that.

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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#11 - 2012-12-20 12:50:48 UTC
Lupus Borealis Quasar wrote:
Is it possible? 100% tax? Might require some RP attitude? Lol



what in the world are you talking about?

Do you even understand the principles of communism?

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Dar Manic
Dirt Road Services
#12 - 2012-12-20 13:36:53 UTC
Eugene Kerner wrote:
Lupus Borealis Quasar wrote:
Is it possible? 100% tax? Might require some RP attitude? Lol



what in the world are you talking about?

Do you even understand the principles of communism?


No. We've seen discussions about communism on GD. The non-intellectuals and pseudo-intellectuals jump on to explain what communism is... and they are wrong.

I just don't understand null sec players.

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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#13 - 2012-12-20 14:00:50 UTC
A 100% tax rate and everything being put in company hangers when not in immediate use, so that others can use them freely. Again, so long as you don't get infiltrated by thieves looking to sabotage you, it can actually work out fine.

To be honest, that's very similar to what we do. For example, we keep a small stash of small industry & mining ships in open corp hangers for exactly the purpose of "public use." Policy is simple: Need one? Borrow one. Put it back when done so someone else can borrow it later. Of course, nothing goes in there that we can't afford to lose - we're generous, not stupid. But the point is we've got a strict policy: Company money goes to company stuff for members of the company. Our CEO (my aunt) doesn't personally own anything bigger than a T1 cruiser.

Then again, we're not in it to get rich. Companies without real business goals fail. We're in it improve our area of space. We like to make sure there are plenty of starter ships out there & enough supplies to keep them going. That we happen to make money at it is just a nice bonus.

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Rath Kelbore
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-12-20 19:37:55 UTC
I've seen corps do it. It works for some people.

I plan on living forever.......so far, so good.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2012-12-20 19:40:06 UTC
My corp sets 100% tax sometimes, but for completely different reasons...

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#16 - 2012-12-20 19:40:47 UTC
I didnt realize NPC corps had 100% tax..they must have stealth fixed that problem where people were staying in NPC corps forever.

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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#17 - 2012-12-20 19:52:17 UTC
But a 100% tax only covers what people earn from missions, correct? What about the isk people earn from mining, manufacturing, margin trading, etc. That would be in the corp member's private wallet, for use as an individual. Mission bounties isk would be shared among the commune members, but other isk would be private property. How would a communist corp get around that? I'm not arguing here, I'm interested in any ideas for work-arounds.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2012-12-20 19:53:22 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:
But a 100% tax only covers what people earn from missions, correct? What about the isk people earn from mining, manufacturing, margin trading, etc. That would be in the corp member's private wallet, for use as an individual. Mission bounties isk would be shared among the commune members, but other isk would be private property. How would a communist corp get around that? I'm not arguing here, I'm interested in any ideas for work-arounds.

API monitoring of wallet transactions, contracts, and assets. Kick anyone from corp who doesn't comply with handing their share in.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Charles Case
State War Academy
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-12-20 20:01:57 UTC
Get your grubby hands off my ISK.
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#20 - 2012-12-20 20:19:01 UTC
Lupus Borealis Quasar wrote:
Is it possible? 100% tax? Might require some RP attitude? Lol



100% tax wouldn't do it. Democratic countries have higher taxes than communist/socialist ones, and Karl Marx himself said taxes are unnecessary for communism.

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