EVE General Discussion

Considering the first DX11 chipsets came out in 2010, and considering that the usual refresh cycle for PCs is 3 years, while the usual refresh cycle is 5 years, and EVE players are notorious for using ancient boxes (remember the furore about Shader 3.0 meaning people couldn't run EVE on their ASUS EEPC?), expecting to migrate the entire population of EVE Online to DX11 before 2015 is rather optimistic.

Of course, if you want to give me $2000 to upgrade my home office to DX11-capable hardware before then, I won't reject your money :)

Oh, I absolutely agree. But 50% is a pretty high number (I honestly expected a lot less). And wouldn't the new DX11 client be DX10 compatible anyway (for the remaining 40% or so). I don't imagine there's a lot of folks out there still running DX9 and WinXP. And if they do...well...maybe they should get with the times.

Though I honestly feel EVE's graphics are more than enough, and definitely competitive. Though I'd like to see some more detail (visible damage, explosions that don't look like a bag of flour taking a .50 round through the middle, perhaps ship breaking down gradually instead of disappearing, leaving behind recognizable pieces as a wreck). That kind of stuff really would garner more attention than tasselation anyhow, considering that most folks fight significantly zoomed out anyway.



Word of advice - assemble your own PC and don't **** away your money for nothing. If you play your cards right, catch some good sales and don't do anything stupid, you can have a fantastic PC for a whole lot less. Basic DX11 capable video card (such as HD 5770) is under $100 for crying out loud, and that's "full price". Catch an X-Mas sale, and you can get it for under $70. Bam, install Win7 and you're DX11 compatible!

Yeah, to be totally honest I was one of those folks who hung on to Win2K until just about everyone dropped support for it. Only switched to XP in late 2006 for Company of Heroes.

Aha! So everyone who wants tessellation: put a bounty on this guy!

How do I know if my system can run Dx11?

So basically CCP, you trolled us.

Many games are coming out non XP in the next year. Really, this is the last year of XP. And no, you can't point at a concrete block and say, that is why, and say its pointless, when your own freaking demo at fanfest showed exactly why it wasn't pointless.

Remember the crowd cheering for it? Remember people saying they wanted it?

Right now the capitals look awful. I'm sure they might get improved at some point, but at this size, detail makes things look bigger than they actually are. Making stuff just larger with bad textures doesn't make them really feel all that big frankly. They are just filling more screen real estate.

sure. GL had tesselation long before DX via extensions. Its now core functionality.

the problem with DirectX is that you can not simply use tesselation, you have to use the latest DirectX API which is not backwards compatible with the old stuff. Thats why you see that some games ship with two engine layers, one for DX9 and one for DX11

ALSO. How does CCP know what kind of machine we use?

Word of advice: Don't cheap out on the video card when building a gaming computer: I'd be looking at a GTX 670, which will cost me about $500 in Australia (perish the thought of a GTX680). Then you build the system around the video card: motherboard and case which will fit the card, memory and processor to fit the motherboard.

I gave up building my own computers when we had a LAN party over a 4 day long weekend and spent 2.5 days fixing broken Windows installs. In one case a computer was moved from one room of the house to the common area, and Windows took the opportunity to break the networking drivers and the mouse driver.

I have visited friends trying to convince me to buy a Windows 7 gaming computer. Between all the cables (OMG the cables: I've been using iMacs for 7 years, cables are just not something I want to deal with) and the endless cycle of upgrading Windows, then upgrading video drivers, then waiting for the virus scanner to let you use the computer, we spent an hour waiting for the computer to be ready for us to play a game. He convinced me alright, and that was before Windows restarted the computer in the middle of a game in order to install a "critical update". WTF?

No, I don't have time to futz around fixing things which shouldn't be broken. No, I don't enjoy spending my time watching the sales and computer fairs and special offers just to build a computer for $800 over six months rather than just buying it off the shelf for $2000. That is time better spent shopping for a new investment property or gardening.

Yes, I mad bro.

DO IT DOOOOO ITT That video made me ejaculate 15 times. please. do this. please.