EVE General Discussion

Just curious as to how people find the aggro timer on a gate.

i personally hate it since it allows such lame tactics for what some people call PVP.

Let me run this one by you - engage having a GF - then 10 jump through the gate to make it a garanteed overkill.

How do people feel? Do people think it aggro should depend on the class size of your ship?

This is sound advice.

And what exactly, OP, do you think would happen if there were no timers?

People would just jump out on you when you have the upper hand and you would get all mad again and post here.

The "remove timers!" argument would turn into "remove gates!" argument.

And before you know it it'll become arena gameplay with very clear on concise rules and regulations regarding how many people are fighting and what the can do with the accuracy of a legal document and then EVE dies.

I tend to disagree - I think you are right in that the removal of timers would cause people to jump out but here's the thing, the current system has no skill involved. On one hand you have people who take PVP as it comes and couldnt care about losing a ship, on the other hand most people want a good fight.

I would prefer to use Skill and push targets off the gate so it can not jump and i would decrease the "within jumping range area" from 2500m to something like <1000m and have the jump area different shapes and sizes so that no gate is the same. That way in my eyes you actually force people to use a bit of skill instead of the "and his agressed jump jump jump" method which is really quite a big negative aspect of pvp.

Perhaps another idea is if you are not the agressor then you are free from gate times - kind of like in low sec where the guns will hit the agressor and not the defender - but i dont like this because you end up getting a situation where "you shoot first", "No you shoot first situation".

Bottom line is i feel that gate timers and agression are a little out of date now and I'd like that to have an overhaul in the favour of the PVPer, as i feel the current system is very much infavour of some quite ridonkulous lame tactics.

There's nothing wrong with having the timers. As some have pointed out, it would be even sillier without timers where you could sit on the gate, shoot with impunity and jump if it got too hot for you.

What would be more interesting is a way to shut down a gate for a short amount of time.

Create a new module (or use the existing hacking one), and create a new hacking sub-skill for the task. You have to be in close proximity to the gate, it generates a criminal flag screwing with empire electronics like this, and make the cycle time on the module about twice as long as the shut down duration. Let the skill level either increase/reduce duration/reactivation or increase the chance of success if chance-based.

Multiple attempts to hack a given gate should interfere with one another to the point of making it far less effective than one person doing it.

And having people as back up and overkill when you are losing is a better tactic and game play yes?