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Trouble fitting my Vindicator
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kerstman18
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-12-19 11:26:16 UTC
Good morning lads,

The last couple of days i have been looking for good vindicator fits,
I'm going to use it for small gang pvp but i'm unsure how to fit it looking at the recent changes,

Would I benefit from fitting a second web? should i trust on a local tank or just buffer tank it and bring logi.
Also, faction guns or normal T2?

Many fits on the web are outdated and hoping to find the rights advice here Blink

thanks in advance
farqar
farqar Corporation
#2 - 2012-12-19 11:31:10 UTC
1 web if u are average pvp player, 2 if proficient. and T2 guns ( blasters of course )
kerstman18
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-12-19 11:32:51 UTC
I was more looking towards the low slots, if buffer, 2 adaptive nano membrames, 2 factions stabs and 2 1600 T2 plates? + a damage control ofcours
W0lf Crendraven
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#4 - 2012-12-19 11:34:08 UTC
If you have to ask, dont fly a vindicator! Buy a megathron lose that a couple of times (solo, not in blob warfare as you lean nothing from that), then buy a hyperion and lose that a couple of times then think about buying a vindicator!
kerstman18
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-12-19 11:36:21 UTC  |  Edited by: kerstman18
I'm just asking what you guys find more practical... i usually find 1 web more than sufficient for example..
And do you guys fly local tanked vindis or always with logi.

EDIT: some guys prefer a 3rd stab
farqar
farqar Corporation
#6 - 2012-12-19 11:38:04 UTC  |  Edited by: farqar
kerstman18 wrote:
I was more looking towards the low slots, if buffer, 2 adaptive nano membrames, 2 factions stabs and 2 1600 T2 plates? + a damage control ofcours



You seems to know what you are talking about T2 plates better than Rolled Tungsten now etc) I would look thru lossmails of groups like Rote and evoke etc , small gang experts and glean fits from there.

I only use a sheild one in Incursion so I am not much help but I like your choice of ship. Go do bad things to people's faces my friend.


Also this guy speaks some truth.


W0lf Crendraven wrote:
If you have to ask, dont fly a vindicator! Buy a megathron lose that a couple of times (solo, not in blob warfare as you lean nothing from that), then buy a hyperion and lose that a couple of times then think about buying a vindicator!
kerstman18
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-12-19 12:12:23 UTC
Do Rokhs count ?Lol
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#8 - 2012-12-19 12:52:42 UTC
kerstman18 wrote:
Do Rokhs count ?Lol


No.

the INSTANT you get in a vindicator you paint a huge bullseye on yourself. I garuntee you will loose it on your first excursion in to low/null.

I know this because the questions you're asking indicate:

A) You've never flown a blasterthron
B) You don't know what your gang make-up is ("Should i bring a logi"?)
C) You don't have alts to scout you around everywhere (cause trust me, "Guys vinidicator in system X", will bring 4 alliances to mess you up)
D) You don't have a Falcon alt to get out of bad situations
E) You won't have a maxed out, off-grid booster to make your ship better,
F) You haven't even MENTIONED the micro jump drive... which is the nulsec saviour to every super-bubbled battleship.
Riedle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-12-19 13:37:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Riedle
Maeltstome wrote:
kerstman18 wrote:
Do Rokhs count ?Lol


No.

the INSTANT you get in a vindicator you paint a huge bullseye on yourself. I garuntee you will loose it on your first excursion in to low/null.

I know this because the questions you're asking indicate:

A) You've never flown a blasterthron
B) You don't know what your gang make-up is ("Should i bring a logi"?)
C) You don't have alts to scout you around everywhere (cause trust me, "Guys vinidicator in system X", will bring 4 alliances to mess you up)
D) You don't have a Falcon alt to get out of bad situations
E) You won't have a maxed out, off-grid booster to make your ship better,
F) You haven't even MENTIONED the micro jump drive... which is the nulsec saviour to every super-bubbled battleship.


Kind of rich coming from the guy who thought the Talos had the same tracking as a vaga don't you think?

lol
kerstman18
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-12-19 18:36:03 UTC
Maeltstome wrote:
kerstman18 wrote:
Do Rokhs count ?Lol


No.

the INSTANT you get in a vindicator you paint a huge bullseye on yourself. I garuntee you will loose it on your first excursion in to low/null.

I know this because the questions you're asking indicate:

A) You've never flown a blasterthron
B) You don't know what your gang make-up is ("Should i bring a logi"?)
C) You don't have alts to scout you around everywhere (cause trust me, "Guys vinidicator in system X", will bring 4 alliances to mess you up)
D) You don't have a Falcon alt to get out of bad situations
E) You won't have a maxed out, off-grid booster to make your ship better,
F) You haven't even MENTIONED the micro jump drive... which is the nulsec saviour to every super-bubbled battleship.



A) It was a JOKE, I have flown one before.
B) I'd form the gang around my main battleships not the other way around.
C) What makes you think i have no scouts?
D)No i have no falcon, got me there.
E) What makes you think i have no off-grid booster?
F) I haven't mentioned it but why should I? This is not for null and your usually commited in a blasterboat anyway.

Now if anything i said doesn't make sense, let me know. I'm always learning.

also, if i have the cash, why not?
Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
#11 - 2012-12-19 19:17:57 UTC
Riedle wrote:


Kind of rich coming from the guy who thought the Talos had the same tracking as a vaga don't you think?

lol


This made me lol
Tarsas Phage
Sniggerdly
#12 - 2012-12-19 22:54:51 UTC
kerstman18 wrote:
Good morning lads,

The last couple of days i have been looking for good vindicator fits,
I'm going to use it for small gang pvp but i'm unsure how to fit it looking at the recent changes,

Would I benefit from fitting a second web? should i trust on a local tank or just buffer tank it and bring logi.
Also, faction guns or normal T2?

Many fits on the web are outdated and hoping to find the rights advice here Blink

thanks in advance



These are p. basic questions. But to answer them directly without passing judgement:

One or two webs is always a question. I prefer 1 web in *most* cases over 2, typically using the other slot for ECCM. I treat that last slot as a utility slot of sorts. You can put a second web in it, or ECCM, or even a sebo in there depending on what you're up to.

Faction vs. T2 guns is a non-starter. T2 all the way. Void and Null are too useful to pass up and faction guns will be an expensive liability that preclude those from use.

As for tank, go with buffer. Remember, part of your tank isn't just EHP, it is also your ability to melt things fast. A dual-rep active vindi is a nice and expensive novelty, but given the issues with active armor tanking in general I wouldnt suggest it unless you're really familiar with the practice. Given that, a buffer setup is pretty straight-forward and vanilla. DCU, 2x EANMS (faction or deadspace, your call), 2x T2 1600 plates, and 2x mag stabs (faction it up if you want.) Don't forget your 3x trimarks.

If you're rolling with logi, you could drop a plate for another resist, or if you're rolling with reliable logi, a 3rd magstab instead. Even with 2x 1600 plates, the vindi is surprisingly agile for a battleship.
Freyya
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-12-20 00:21:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Freyya
If you have the isk;

8x cormack neutrons. (If you can find them lol) and faction ammo.
2x High end web 17km and up. Sebo/eccm, officer mwd. (Leave tackle to someone else or bring a faction)
2x faction plates, 2 x officer or faction magstabs, dcu and 2x a type eanm.
2x t2 trimark and t2 expl. Rig to plug the hole.
Slaves high grade and some damage/rof imps + whatever.
Bring logi's and a booster for more buffer. Drop a plate for 3rd eanm or magstab if you trust your logi.

for more normal people;
8x t2 neutrons. Null and void.
2x fed webs, sebo/eccm, deadspace mwd or drop a web for faction tackle.
2x t2 (still advise faction) plates, 2x fed magstab, dcu and 2x eanm deadspace or t2.
Trimarks and expl rig to plug the hole. Low slaves and damage/rof imps etc.
Bring more logi and a booster. Drop a plate for eanm or magstab.

Active armor tanking is dead since Hp boost among other things.

Or go shield with ancil booster and fit for gank. Bring a transport for boostercaps ;p

Imho, vindi isnt to be flown with anything less than 500 mil in fittings. It pays off. For you, or the other Guys.....
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#14 - 2012-12-20 02:06:49 UTC
I would suggest a Navy Mega over the Vindi. Until you get used to the crew you fly with and have a couple losses under your belt.
You can get 1400+ DPS and over 100K HP to boot.

Tara Read
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#15 - 2012-12-20 03:50:38 UTC
Fly a regular Mega and forget the Vindi. If you want the dps go for a gank shield Hyperion.
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
#16 - 2012-12-20 13:46:26 UTC
As with most things, it depends on where you're flying, who you're flying with, how you fly and, of course, personal preference.

I've known people fit the additional mid with a wide variety of different modules:
ECCM (because being jammed in an expensive face-melt fit sucks).
Long point (long point to stop warp, scram and web to actually pin them down).
2nd Web (to really, really stop things in their tracks or to grab the next target without having to let go of the first).
2nd Cap Booster (for those really cap hungry dual rep set-ups).
Sensor Booster.

Since its release the MJD is probably also worth mentioning (although I've not made use of one yet).


Your lows are also dependent on these things, if you have a head full of high-grades and you're flying a sequence of (effectively) 1vs1s with time to have a gangmate rep you in between (or stations you can rep in) then you can achieve a substantial buffer while still loading three magstabs, if you're solo (or even solo other than your Falcon) in hostile space then you're almost certainly going to want an active component...