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[VLI] Vaughn Lampen Investments - All Accounts Closed and Refunded with Outstanding Interest!

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Joshua Vaughn Lampen
Archer Investments Initiative
#21 - 2012-12-17 02:35:26 UTC
Just a brief announcement. RL has interfered with my life a bit this evening so the update will be a bit delayed. Shouldn't be for too long though.
Debra Tao
Perkone
Caldari State
#22 - 2012-12-17 05:15:39 UTC
Are you operating all these operations by yourself ? If you aren't alone how are profits splitted between you and your associates ? I don't find any indications that leads me to think that your profits are shared with other associates...

If people are mining ice for you, for instance, you shouldn't claim that VLI has an income of 160mil+ per day becasue of course, it should be their income right ? So if everything is right it should be you and your alts mining, doing PI, doing reactions, and so on. I don't find it likely at all. This represents an incredible amount of work for a single personn.

Let's take the ice business for exemple, you claim that you have a daily income of roughly 137mil. A quick glance at EFT indicates that with a retriever that you are using the income per hour is around 3mil isk, let's be generous and say that you have an income of 5 mil isk per hour. Even with 10 alts all mining it takes 3 hours just to make 137mil... So you should be kinda busy with that already, right ?

Oh but that's just a tiny part of your business, you are also updating orders, fuelling towers, doing reactions, doing a lot of PI... And now real life is kinda busy but you still find some spare time to run sites in a wormhole. Isn't life extroadinary ?

Unless you have some kind of incredible explanation, this is quite clearly a scam. But i have to say a well thought-out one, your wall of text is impressive.
Joshua Vaughn Lampen
Archer Investments Initiative
#23 - 2012-12-17 11:35:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Joshua Vaughn Lampen
Debra Tao wrote:
Are you operating all these operations by yourself ? If you aren't alone how are profits splitted between you and your associates ? I don't find any indications that leads me to think that your profits are shared with other associates...

If people are mining ice for you, for instance, you shouldn't claim that VLI has an income of 160mil+ per day becasue of course, it should be their income right ? So if everything is right it should be you and your alts mining, doing PI, doing reactions, and so on. I don't find it likely at all. This represents an incredible amount of work for a single personn.

Let's take the ice business for exemple, you claim that you have a daily income of roughly 137mil. A quick glance at EFT indicates that with a retriever that you are using the income per hour is around 3mil isk, let's be generous and say that you have an income of 5 mil isk per hour. Even with 10 alts all mining it takes 3 hours just to make 137mil... So you should be kinda busy with that already, right ?

Oh but that's just a tiny part of your business, you are also updating orders, fuelling towers, doing reactions, doing a lot of PI... And now real life is kinda busy but you still find some spare time to run sites in a wormhole. Isn't life extroadinary ?

Unless you have some kind of incredible explanation, this is quite clearly a scam. But i have to say a well thought-out one, your wall of text is impressive.


I'll start with the easy stuff since you don't really seem to understand how much time most of these things take.

Reactions. Buy stuff, move it to another location, put it in something, take stuff that's done. Well that was hard. Oh that's right this only has to happen for 5 minutes every couple days. Well that was a large time sink... And to think this generates hundreds of millions of ISK because you just had to do the research and have the capital to invest. Oh yeah and the fueling part. Good god how do I find the time to fuel them? Oh that's right they hold a month's worth of fuel at a time... Oh yeah and I don't have to move a lot of materials at a time either... I just buy several weeks or a month+ and let it sit in a hanger next to a tower. Whelp there went a huge section of my life.

PI. Time intensive during setup. Affect that, double click extractor, install program, rinse and repeat with several characters on three screens once every three days. Takes about 2 minutes per character. God what a massive time sink again... Oh yeah it is kinda hard to show up once every two weeks on a weekend to get everything thrown into a POCO and move it to a hanger and wait for someone else to pick it up and ship it for me.. Thank you RFF <3

Ice mining. here's where things get complicated so hold onto your butt. Park myself in a belt with an orca and three ice miners. I mine about 860-900 units of ice a day so seems like a lot right? Well considering I do it while I'm afk at work programming and to reach that goal I only need each character to mine 35 units of ice per hour during the day I'm actually pretty inefficient with it because I don't always check the screen religiously. Oh yeah and that's right I buy some of the ice off people in my corp who don't wanna bother refining and hauling. Ouch that was a hard couple of clicks and courier contracts there...

Market Operations. Alright this is probably the biggest time sink of all. Place orders for stuff, contract them to Red Frog Freight, Wait for them to move, place sell orders. PHEW that was a couple minutes of wrist-shattering work...

People tend to seriously over-estimate how long things take because they're usually incompetent, don't know how to leverage math, or can't notice obvious market mechanics and the services you can use to profit from them. Try to understand how most of these processes work before you automatically assume something's a scam and accuse it of being such. Saves me time from having to take five minutes of my life(btw just reset my planets during this, moved two towers reaction inputs and output too) to show you that your incapable of doing simple and not read the other parts of the forum during breakfast.

Cheers,
J.V. Lampen

P.S. Thanks for posting on an alt so that you don't look like the idiot you clearly are on your main ;)
Debra Tao
Perkone
Caldari State
#24 - 2012-12-17 13:59:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Debra Tao
Firts thing first this is my first char, and i have made enough money via market to know what i am talking about. But we are not really discussing my credibility here because i am not asking for 40 billions !

Mining 860 units of ice with 3 chars plus an orca will take around 11hours, oh but you are not really efficient... Putting a dozens of orders in Jita and updating them every hours would make more profit, much more.

After that it's your word against mine but seriously managing 45 (!) planets take quite some time, i have done PI before, and it's clearly not in the range of a couple minutes each day. So total you are probably logged in for 12-14 hours each day. Don't burn out !

Oh now you have two towers for reaction ?
Joshua Vaughn Lampen
Archer Investments Initiative
#25 - 2012-12-17 14:26:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Joshua Vaughn Lampen
Debra Tao wrote:
Firts thing first this is my first char, and i have made enough money via market to know what i am talking about. But we are not really discussing my credibility here because i am not asking for 40 billions !

Mining 860 units of ice with 3 chars plus an orca will take around 11hours, oh but you are not really efficient... Putting a dozens of orders in Jita and updating them every hours would make more profit, much more.

After that it's your word against mine but seriously managing 45 (!) planets take quite some time, i have done PI before, and it's clearly not in the range of a couple minutes each day. So total you are probably logged in for 12-14 hours each day. Don't burn out !

Oh now you have two towers for reaction ?


It's impressive how bad you are at math so I'm surprised you've made any money off the market.

Lets assume I don't even have an orca. 3 ice miners decent skills + 3% implant = 154s per cycle.

Each ship has 2 ice miners so I would produce 6 units of ice every 154 seconds. 860 units of ice is my goal and if I am basically producing 6 units in that time interval it will take me 860/6 = 143 cycles.

Total cycle time needed = 154 seconds x 143 cycles = 22,022 seconds = 6.11 hours. Now that's without warping back and worth so add some buffer time in there. I'll give you that much. That's also without an Orca so yeah. Add in an orca in there and looking at some of my extra screens when I think about it at work while EVE is running in the background yeah I do just fine for not really doing anything that requires more than a couple seconds on each character. Open screen, move ice, repeat. Quite wrist shattering and time intensive(if you consider 15 seconds every 30 minutes time intensive and are an idiot).

Now that it's pretty clear that your a habitual paint-huffer due to your inability to do basic math I'll move on to other things. Roll

Managing 45 planets takes very little time when you can formulate basic thoughts and realize how to ensure your system sustains itself over moderate periods of time. Oh and as for restarting them. Pretty easy to do when you've got three screens and all three accounts logged on at the same time. All I have to do is double click the planet I wanna view in the indy window, double click the extractors, install programs, and move on to the next one. Really doesn't take that much time. You might wanna examine whatever it is you're doing if you're investing more than a minute or so.

As for the towers yep there are more I actually have to announce which will come in my update this evening but thanks for helping me announce it early! Roll

Anyway thanks for letting me show that you're basically incapable of simple math or backing up your own arguments with said math!

As for everyone else sorry for the delay in my usual weekly update. I know after speaking to many of you that you really like to see it. It will be up later on this evening though along with other announcements. If you have any questions please feel free to message me as usual for a chat or feel free to post in the thread.
Debra Tao
Perkone
Caldari State
#26 - 2012-12-17 14:30:30 UTC
I haven't done math here, i used isk per hour.

Oh and i do math for a living P but that's another story...
Joshua Vaughn Lampen
Archer Investments Initiative
#27 - 2012-12-17 15:29:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Joshua Vaughn Lampen
Investor and Prospective Investor Update #1

Market Operations

Direct Return on Investment of Selected Commodities

Primary Investments - High Priority - High Volume
Commodity #1: 21.32%
Commodity #2: 17.71%
Commodity #3: 13.34%
Commodity #4: 9.29%
Commodity #5: 15.19%
Commodity #6: 14.48%
Commodity #7: 16.62%
Commodity #8: 9.79%
Commodity #9: 14.15%
Commodity #10: 17.11%
Commodity #11: 6.83%
Commodity #12: 11.95%
Commodity #13: 18.45%
Commodity #14: 11.49%
Commodity #15: 15.08%
Commodity #16: 14.70%
Commodity #17: 22.07%
Commodity #18: 18.54%
Commodity #19: 7.97%
Commodity #20: 14.15%
Commodity #21: 16.79%
Commodity #22: 11.41%
Commodity #23: 16.82%
Commodity #24: 12.06%

Secondary Investments - Low Priority - Low Volume

Commodity #25: 3.88%
Commodity #26: 13.89%
Commodity #27: 3.77%
Commodity #28: 5.85%
Commodity #29: 2.75%
Commodity #30: 2.16%
Commodity #31: 3.45%
Commodity #32: 2.43%
Commodity #33: 15.10%
Commodity #34: 1.45%
Commodity #35: 4.53%
Commodity #36: 8.26%
Commodity #37: 1.38%
Commodity #38: 3.45%

Current Market Buy Order Value: 27.69B

At this time my expansion has gone far better than my original data had led me to believe. Originally I had thought that there would be only about a 72% increase on daily market activity but thus far it has shown to be roughly a 263% increase on my previous operations in terms of ISK/day on market order fulfillment. Previously market purchases moved at between 630m on weekdays to as much as 1.4b on weekends. At the moment I'm averaging 1.6569 B per day in purchases which given my current resources thanks to my investors places me in the same time interval I had been pursuing since I started my operations and then some. At the moment I only have to issue some courier contracts and do a bit of afk shipping to move most of this around so I'm expecting profits to be higher than originally projected before I opened VLI.

Toward the end of this week I'll be posting my EVEMENTAT Data as usual to show my in/outflows as requested by several current investors.

Mining Operations

For the past week Ice MIning Operations have been somewhat reduced due to supporting my ongoing Celestial Symphony Project. As of Sunday I had only harvested 82.26% or 4,952 units of my weekly quota. Overall this represents only a slight disruption of my overall take and as the next month progresses it is possible that I may well make up for this with other mining operations as this is only 14 hours worth of mining without Orca boosts.

At the moment all of my harvested ice has been dispatched via RFF courier contracts to my refining hub where the ice products are processed into Caldari Fuel Blocks using goods produced through my Planetary Interaction Network. Any unused products are stored in the station pending significant price spikes in the marketplace like what was experienced a couple weeks ago with Nitrogen Isotopes.

Planetary Interaction Network

Operations continue uninterrupted for my Planetary Interaction Network. Daily resets still occur once every three days and production has been relatively stable other than small periods of slight resource deficiency. No planets have yet required large-scale reorganization since first installing their facilities. The only development of significant note is that I have decided to have two accounts characters train Command Center Upgrades and Interplanetary Interaction to Level V. This will require a significant block of time as each skills training time is roughly 17 days so each character requires 34 days of training without implants or remapping. Consequently the time required to finish this will be 102 days. I will also have them train Planetology - Level III
There are significant benefits to this however.

With the increased CPU and Powergrid I can extend my extraction timers out past their current timers and more than likely increase efficiency by ensuring that excess extraction occurs and is put into my storage facilities before routed to basic and advanced processing factories. I will also be able to add one more planet to each character's network which will yield approximately 60 more P2 commodities per hour which average roughly 8500 ISK per unit for those that I have selected for production. On a monthly basis this will increase income by approximately 358,020,000 ISK after taxes. Overall network production value will increase by approximately 12.67%.

In additional news tax rates will have significantly less impact over the coming weeks. Taxes on my operations will be reduced by 50% to 2.5% on all POCO's thanks to successful negotiations with the owners who operate them in my preferred system.

One character has already completed the upgrade process of his 5 planet's command centers and I will release an update on that portion of network's performance in my next update. I also conducted a large-scale export of materials from my area of operations this past weekend while completing Stage II of the Celestial Symphony Project(CSP).

Manufacturing

Manufacturing has been somewhat slow as of late due to interests in other concerns. The only significant event of note was the production of 160,000 Caldari Fuel Blocks. Half of these were placed aside as personal fuel and the others were bought through the Bulk Trade Mailing list for roughly 960m ISK.

Reactions

As posted in my news section earlier the CSP is progressing as currently planned. One of the benefits to having long-term investors is that I can make significant capital investments in projects that are significant generators of ISK. Each individual component of the network pays for its physical infrastructure in about thirty days of operation or less depending on the reaction selected.

CSP ISK/hr: 2.124m ISK/hr

- Lampen
Nerdy McButtHurt Trald
Doomheim
#28 - 2012-12-18 02:16:39 UTC
Ignoring any of the maths advice floating around, this operation smacks of burn out.

Too much going on, you still do a massive amount of ice mining. Even if it is AFK mining it still needs to be managed.
Joshua Vaughn Lampen
Archer Investments Initiative
#29 - 2012-12-18 02:51:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Joshua Vaughn Lampen
Sorry for the delay in my usual update. I've posted my weekly update as usual. I ran out of space for more details on the CSP and its ISK statistics so I just put the raw ISK/hr number as its readily understood.

As usual for any current investors please feel free to mail me with any questions and the same goes for prospective investors as we've still got 13.2B in deposits open before I hit the hard carp for my fund.

Thanks for reading!

- J.V. Lampen

P.S. 21 courier contracts placed with a rough value of 11.3B. Arrival and processing should take place in about 48 hours. Should be one of my biggest single-day sales ever as 38 contracts preceeded this batch from this past weekend.
Joshua Vaughn Lampen
Archer Investments Initiative
#30 - 2012-12-18 04:18:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Joshua Vaughn Lampen
Announcement

As part of the holiday season VLI is proud to sponsor a 100m prize in Molic Blackbird's Holiday Raffle:

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To participate please follow the instructions at Molic's website, one of EVE's most well-known industrialists!
Arancar Australis
Dead Sun Rising Enterprises
#31 - 2012-12-18 11:18:19 UTC
Hi JV,

Just a small question, are there any issues with doing an investment of $250 million in the Class 1A and Class1B shares? Total investment to be $500 million.

Cheers,

AA

Joshua Vaughn Lampen
Archer Investments Initiative
#32 - 2012-12-18 12:12:52 UTC
Arancar,

No there is no issue in splitting your investment into both a 1A and 1B account. If you'd like to do so please send ISK to my character and I will get it recorded as I have with other investors thus far. If you have any other questions please feel free to post here and contact me in-game via email.

- J.V. Lampen
Joshua Vaughn Lampen
Archer Investments Initiative
#33 - 2012-12-19 02:38:58 UTC
Just a quick post as I just got about 50% of the contracts processed and wanted to post this sale for the day:

http://s245.beta.photobucket.com/user/jvlampen/media/BigSale_zps757dda23.png.html

There's about 3.6B that is still sitting in sell orders so that'll creep up a bit more before the night is over.

Weekly trade/sales charts due sometime tomorrow or the day after. Of particulat note is that sale represents only a fraction of the total goods currently scattered across two regions. Working on consolidating it now ;)

P.S. Travelling most of the day tomorrow so will be outta contact for most of it. Will be online late tomorrow night though.
Yvormessier
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2012-12-19 15:31:39 UTC
I'm afraid you guys are being scammed. If this guy was genuinely trading on the market his wallet journal tab would show lots of broker fee/market escrow entries.

He will keep paying interest until such time it's not profitable to do so then he will pull the plug.
Joshua Vaughn Lampen
Archer Investments Initiative
#35 - 2012-12-19 15:37:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Joshua Vaughn Lampen
I've got no problem showing my wallet transactions and the many hundreds of transactions and market escrow fees that take place. You picked a great time though random alt since Im on the way to the airport as i mentioned i would be traveling most of today. I'll post up about a days worth of wallet transactions once i get a chance.

P.S. If you are trying to say Im scamming because my wallet picture above doesn't show the withdrawal of market fees and escrow withdrawals you really should reexamine the picture since the rate of withdrawal is really rather consistent. The spike represents the arrival of the goods I've shipped over the past several days and their bulk sale. When I logged off last night i had about 23.4B in liquid ISK with many dozen of courier contracts still being processed and many systems worth of goods that have not been consolidated.

P.S.S. If anyone else has some data or screenshots that they would like to see please feel free to request them. Obviously anything that reveals the regions and/or the specific products Im leveraging on the market won't be disclosed as that would create unnecessary competition.
Joshua Vaughn Lampen
Archer Investments Initiative
#36 - 2012-12-19 17:33:23 UTC
Airport's internet connection is about as terrible as you would expect but here's a quick snapshot of my trader alt's wallet journal:

11 minutes = 25 market escrow authorizations worth 43,906,828.96 ISK

I've posted this one since the internet took about 10 minutes to upload one picture of my wallet journal so I don't really wanna fight with it for god knows how long to show more at this time. If anyone would like to see more please let me know but that's about an average daily pace for me around this time(high population times in my areas of operation).

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg46/jvlampen/11minutesofBusiness_zpsde7177a4.png







Every One
Triglavian Directive
S h a d o w
#37 - 2012-12-20 06:10:57 UTC
Joshua Vaughn Lampen wrote:

P.S.S. If anyone else has some data or screenshots

Do you have any pics with bunnies or hot girls?

Thanks.
Arancar Australis
Dead Sun Rising Enterprises
#38 - 2012-12-20 09:45:52 UTC
Joshua Vaughn Lampen wrote:
Arancar,

No there is no issue in splitting your investment into both a 1A and 1B account. If you'd like to do so please send ISK to my character and I will get it recorded as I have with other investors thus far. If you have any other questions please feel free to post here and contact me in-game via email.

- J.V. Lampen



Hi Jv,

Thanks for that and isk has been sent.

Cheers,

AA
Joshua Vaughn Lampen
Archer Investments Initiative
#39 - 2012-12-20 12:27:44 UTC
Every One wrote:
Joshua Vaughn Lampen wrote:

P.S.S. If anyone else has some data or screenshots

Do you have any pics with bunnies or hot girls?

Thanks.


No bunnies but there's always pics of my lab Sam:

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg46/jvlampen/IMG_0331_zps77ed931c.jpg
Every One
Triglavian Directive
S h a d o w
#40 - 2012-12-20 12:30:21 UTC
Sam is awesome man!
That pic is actually too awesome....google images or photographer? Smile