EVE General Discussion

Look, point is, high sec folks seem happy, you're telling us you're happy. CCP seem to be happy.

So....the problem is what? Seems to me, everybody is happy. If it ain't broke.....


Or are you really not happy, is your blood boiling at the notion of high wallet blinks...?

(citation needed)



That's bull**** and you know it.

Please be sure all profanity is censored - CCP Eterne

So can we also talk about reducing the loot drop from hi-sec piracy as a "nerf to hi-sec" income? Or even something non-isk, but still a reward - nerf Sec Status gain from hi-sec ratting? Are these sort of things on the table when less risk divided by reward is bandied about? Or is there just a magnfying glass on miners and missioners? Enquirying minds want to know.

I don't consider a poster whose history is basically "nerf high sec into the dirt" an objective statistical source

Only CCP has these kinds of numbers and they've not posted them in a good long while.

Couple of fallacies in this post of yours. Come back when you have the information to back up your claim.

I would happily agree if it was correct, doubly so if I cared one way or the next. However, I do not.

I entered this debate because of your reply to my original post - it bore out pretty close to how I expected - looking for ways to force, ahem sorry, to 'encourage' people to change how they are playing the game.

My point was and remains - most people do what they find fun. Forcing change on them in the name of an agenda pretty much never ends well for either side.

If people wanted to move to $SEC_SPACE, they'd already be there. There are no barriers.

I'm puzzled about where people get this idea about other people wanting them to be forced to move



Oh wait, don't tell me that they're taking seriously the strawmen being so loudly beaten by those people desperately trying to protect their unbalanced cosy little CONCORD-secured niches?

LOL

Lol quoting a biased poster opinion is now the new objective CCP numbers!

+1

I do high sec things, and they are fun, and I'm generally happy with the game.

But when I can take a pirate faction battleship and make the same or only slightly less in isk (MORE when you factor in LP) with it as I can in null sec (where I have to evade reds, neuts and be prepared to fight off awoxers and wormhole raiders) with the exact same pirate faction battleship, that's unbalanced, even if i can adapt to it by just going to high sec.

I'm talking incursions in that instance, but the same applies to missions where I can't be screwed with without either a wardecc or someone willing to sacrifice ships to CONCORD.

Is that citation enough?

The truth is that CCP has painted itself into a corner, they know they can't just buff null sec because that was tried with the upgrade scheme and was a disaster, they know nerfing highsec (including the already nerfed Incursions but ESPECIALLY the sacred cow lvl 4 missions) would have some unintended consequences as well. There may be no really good option for restoring EVE historic Risk(effort)/reward balance at all.

I believe CCP would disagree with you on that. OP is obviously upset that highsec carebears make more isk then he does Oh the tears from null bears they taste so sweet.