EVE General Discussion

let me start by saying yes i am but hurt and yes tears are involved.
loss mails to start so here you go:
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=18256048#mail
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=18256050#mail


eve fails and this is why i think it does:
i have played eve for over 3 years was first war dec'ed after i had only been playing 2 months or so went on for over a month, i died lots and lots in what i could fly at the time (not many people will try to fight war deccers full stop)

thought it wasn't too bad as i was young so expected to die in pvp, however i have tried everything from wormholes to incursions to care baring running lvl 4 missions and a bit of null to make isk to try and better myself both SP wise and what ships i have to use in case of pvp.

but guess what? dosent matter what you can or do fly you will still ALWAYS get blobbed and lose whatever it is you are flying within a matter of 0-2 minutes!

this is where the game fails

people want more people to risk their stuff in pvp but if say to fit a t2 bc it takes 80-100 mill depending on you're fit and you will end up dying in a minute or so to make the isk in game even running incursions you are looking at at least 1 hour, want to fly something more expensive? still going to die in the same time but spend a lot more time playing to just make isk to pay for it.

this is why i am done with this game, i have played for over 3 years have 46 mill SP and you know what i have to show for it? 130 mill isk no assets of value no ships capable of lvl 4's or making isk of any kind nothing.
that is why i am done with eve, because yes HTFU don't fly what you cant afford to lose etc but if i didn't fly anything bigger that a bc after 3 years what is the point in playing? and when you try to pvp guess what you die within a minute,

the only way to be successful in this game is to outnumber you're opponent by far or spend RL money on plexes to pay for your next ship.

/rant over

o7 pilot, never stop blobbing.

that is also one of my points, ican fly 3 races bs's but don't as i like movabilty rather than sitting almost still

but if i cannot afford to fly anything smaller than bc and lose occasionaly/ kill occasionally how am i suppose to pvp?
as it is at the moment i dont even have enough to update my clone since i got podded earlier even if i was to undock without an updataed clone how am i supposed to make any isk worth mentioning my skills don't/cant allow me to trade profitably yet plus i dont have the patience to adjust orders every couple of minutes. so what can i do?

against EULA

Here, have my like for spelling "lose" correctly.

Good luck and I hope you'll enjoy your next game more.

It sounds like you are trying to solo pvp, and solo pvp is probably one of the most difficult things to do in the game as it stands right now. So few ships are capable of doing it consistently and very few of those are big ships.

In general the key is to be in a group, move quickly and hit hard (with a bit of ewar thrown in for good measure). That's why you see so many Talos and Tornadoes running around null sec.

If you really want to solo I'd suggest getting into something like a Wolf and go hunting. You have to expect things to go south in a fight and being able to gtfo when it does is basically essential. Once you have gotten confidence with a Wolf you can buy something like a Cynabal which can take on much bigger targets.

As for how you get money... well that's a tough one. Most pvp'ers have pve alts that fund their pvp since pvp in itself is an expensive business (unless you're a pirate and a good one).

That legion killmail indicates you were doing mini-professions in 0.0... without a cloaking device. There's yer problem right there

Looks like you've been flying way above what you can afford for a long time.

Since you already mentioned that your stuff is worthless, I will not ask you for it, instead some tips out of my head:

1. Wtf is wrong with your corp? They let you fly expensive t3s and then laugh in your face when you get blown up until you are broke?
If this impression is true, you should look for an other corp, one that either has a ship replacement program or one whose fleet doctrines do not always involve ships that cost > 1 B

2. A skilled combat pilot with your amount of SP and 150 M should have no problems to grind his money back up. Heck, if everything else fails, just sell a plex on the market, get yourself a fully fit NApoc and grind level 4s like a boss.

3. If you like pvp to be your main focus, you will lose money and need some kind of steady income from other sources.
Remember that all the pvp corps are looking for "self-sufficient" pilots?
So either ship down in future, get yourself an indy alt, train some moneymaking skills with your main (mostly PI or Invention, Mining is to time consuming and boring) or buy plex regularily and convert them into isk.

nothing wrong with the corp as such, everyone does there own thing mostly.

i could get a harb or something and grind lvl 3's or something untill i have enough for a lvl 4 ship i guess but well a napoc fitted will cost me 550 mill or there abouts :/

i dont always want to be flying frigates for pvp yes they are fun but die 9 times out of 10 even if you have a blob behind you, and i also dont want to be paying for every ship with plex brought from RL cash i may aswell go play one of the many other mmo's out there which if i was pvp'ing by plex would most likely work out cheaper even if i did lose my stuff every time i died

17-1 odds are fair? i would'nt give a **** if it was even 5v1 but there must be a fair limit somewhere.
also not everyone is in an aliance with thousands of members