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Why do most afk while mining?

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Zero Audier
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-12-17 23:40:12 UTC
Your sitting there, watching lasers turn as you mine a roid. Oh the occasional rat will come, but you get to see your drones circle & kill it within 10 seconds. Some action right? Super exiting isn't it? It's god dam torture, and unless it was more interactive/ required player input (for the mining itself), people will continue to go afk while mining.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-12-17 23:41:45 UTC
Fix gatecamps too! Maybe have the billboards play a few episodes of Bones or something

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Morrigan LeSante
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-12-17 23:42:46 UTC
You seem to be homogonizing ice mining, and ore mining.
Zero Audier
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-12-17 23:46:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Zero Audier
Hold it! I would love to have something TO do when I mine, but the way it stands, I just sit here, and watch lasers spin. As far as solutions go, I really have no clue. A mini game is out of the question, but really what else is there?
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#5 - 2012-12-17 23:48:07 UTC
Morrigan LeSante wrote:
You seem to be homogonizing ice mining, and ore mining.


And you seem to think there is a difference. It takes 30 minutes to fill a Mackinaw with ore and my fingers need to be in contact with the keyboard 5 or 6 times for less than 5 seconds.
Morrigan LeSante
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-12-17 23:51:07 UTC
When I dabbled in it, when done as a fleet operation stuff pops pretty fast (if not ice), you're swapping targets/repositioning a fair bit. It's relatively engaging - certainly compared to the other "non-combat" activities (trading and so forth).

Don't get me wrong, it's certainly no adrenaline rush, but who am I to judge what other people find rewarding/relaxing?
Morrigan LeSante
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-12-17 23:52:37 UTC
Skydell wrote:
Morrigan LeSante wrote:
You seem to be homogonizing ice mining, and ore mining.


And you seem to think there is a difference. It takes 30 minutes to fill a Mackinaw with ore and my fingers need to be in contact with the keyboard 5 or 6 times for less than 5 seconds.


You could almost say the same for missioning in a suitable boat.

/shrug

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Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-12-17 23:53:18 UTC
Yes if you have one account and are sitting in high-sec then there is very little to do.

Now add alts into the mix and or try that in low-sec or null and the results completely change.

IF you want excitement find a null-sec corp and mine there.


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Bobo Cindekela
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-12-17 23:56:00 UTC
Zero Audier wrote:
Hold it! I would love to have something TO do when I mine, but the way it stands, I just sit here, and watch lasers spin. As far as solutions go, I really have no clue. A mini game is out of the question, but really what else is there?



running 20 accounts of miners seems to increase the intensity of mining, you should give it a shot

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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-12-17 23:58:49 UTC
Simetraz wrote:
Yes if you have one account and are sitting in high-sec then there is very little to do.

Now add alts into the mix and or try that in low-sec or null and the results completely change.

IF you want excitement find a null-sec corp and mine there.

Actually that is even worse since you have to be paying enough attention to see if someone shows up in local and can't fully AFK, but the act itself is still just as boring.
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-12-18 00:00:11 UTC
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
Simetraz wrote:
Yes if you have one account and are sitting in high-sec then there is very little to do.

Now add alts into the mix and or try that in low-sec or null and the results completely change.

IF you want excitement find a null-sec corp and mine there.

Actually that is even worse since you have to be paying enough attention to see if someone shows up in local and can't fully AFK, but the act itself is still just as boring.



Then I guess mining isn't for you.

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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-12-18 00:01:10 UTC
Simetraz wrote:
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
Simetraz wrote:
Yes if you have one account and are sitting in high-sec then there is very little to do.

Now add alts into the mix and or try that in low-sec or null and the results completely change.

IF you want excitement find a null-sec corp and mine there.

Actually that is even worse since you have to be paying enough attention to see if someone shows up in local and can't fully AFK, but the act itself is still just as boring.



Then I guess mining isn't for you.

You are correct.
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#13 - 2012-12-18 00:01:33 UTC
You have to remember the agenda of all the people "against afk mining". Its not to stop afk mining, its to remove it from the game entirely, and replace it with some other way of getting minerals. But they cannot come right out and say that. But they have noticed that mining is a semi-afk activity, and if the players were forced to not be semi-afk they would mostly stop doing it. The resulting disruption to the game would force CCP to add new, non-mining mineral sources.

Unfortunately for these folks, CCP seems to be moving the other way. The mining profession has been augmented with both a reduction in mineral sources from other activities and with better mining ships.

The result is miners continue to mine while chatting, reading, watching TV and so on, and CCP will say "working as intended".

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#14 - 2012-12-18 00:02:11 UTC
I'd be a much happier player if Mining Laser Upgrades would reduce cycle times rather than yield. This is what Ice harvester upgrades already do, so why not change the ice harvester upgrade to simply a "Mining Laser Accelerator" which affects all lasers?

There's more that can be done to make mining a little more interesting, while not impacting terribly on people who actually want to "AFK" mine.

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Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-12-18 00:04:29 UTC
Bobo Cindekela wrote:
Zero Audier wrote:
Hold it! I would love to have something TO do when I mine, but the way it stands, I just sit here, and watch lasers spin. As far as solutions go, I really have no clue. A mini game is out of the question, but really what else is there?



running 20 accounts of miners seems to increase the intensity of mining, you should give it a shot


This one made me laugh.
I did meet someone who was going to do this.
Personnally I thought they were out of there mind. (don't even want to try and control that many characters)
They were planning on paying for all the accounts with plex as well.
THAT is my definition of a job not playing a game.
To each there own but that is nuts.


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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#16 - 2012-12-18 00:05:52 UTC
Bobo Cindekela wrote:
Zero Audier wrote:
Hold it! I would love to have something TO do when I mine, but the way it stands, I just sit here, and watch lasers spin. As far as solutions go, I really have no clue. A mini game is out of the question, but really what else is there?



running 20 accounts of miners seems to increase the intensity of mining, you should give it a shot

I run 2 hulks and an orca. I spend about 20% of each 2 minute cycle doing stuff. Moving ore, targeting new roids, directing drones.

20 ships at once would keep you quite busy.

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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#17 - 2012-12-18 00:08:00 UTC
Simetraz wrote:
........
To each there own but that is nuts.



That is the attitude we need more of in this game!

If you do not like mining, then do something else. Its not a requirement.

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Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#18 - 2012-12-18 00:15:51 UTC
Zero Audier wrote:
Hold it! I would love to have something TO do when I mine, but the way it stands, I just sit here, and watch lasers spin. As far as solutions go, I really have no clue. A mini game is out of the question, but really what else is there?


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Riddick Liddell
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-12-18 00:32:00 UTC
Most people don't mine. It's why Tritanium is at 6.00 on a good day and Abaddons are going for 280 mill.
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#20 - 2012-12-18 00:34:23 UTC
It's called friends. They're awesome to hang out and chat with while you do such things.

The alternatives are that I sit and spin in station all day.

At least mining is productive.

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