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Semi-AFK Cloaking

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Zzamba
Gasprom Refinery
#1 - 2012-12-11 18:56:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Zzamba
So i have several alts that can fly an Arazu (this Toon included) who's fitted with a covert cyno, a normal cyno and multiple webs and distruptors.


My main + 2 alts has black ops ships that are in range and can bridge about 30 bombers + support on top of people.

My plan of action is as followed, Camp a system until they pay a ransom, until they pay the ransom i do not leave the system, as this is after all an alt who can be left online 23/7 and keep dropping fleets on top of people..

The ransom part supposedly works, after all whats 250-500m to a few guys eh?

Is this a viable way of disrupting traffic in a whole region?

Lets see.
Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#2 - 2012-12-11 19:19:44 UTC
Unless you find a very lucrative system, people will just move.
Morgan Torry
Arma Purgatorium
#3 - 2012-12-11 19:27:58 UTC
Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
Unless you find a very lucrative system, people will just move.


Yeah, best of luck. And if the system is really that good, a 30-man fleet won't stop them from being there. If anything they'll want you to come so they'd enjoy some good ol' PvP. I'd imagine you're doing this in low, which is filled with established pirate groups and FW corps. They thrive on PvP. Your plan only works if it is targeting those who are adverse to combat.

Arma Purgatorium - What is Podded May Never Die

Zzamba
Gasprom Refinery
#4 - 2012-12-11 19:29:27 UTC
Morgan Torry wrote:
Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
Unless you find a very lucrative system, people will just move.


Your plan only works if it is targeting those who are adverse to combat.


IRC
Anemonae Ambrosia
Royal Order of Security Specialists
#5 - 2012-12-11 19:30:04 UTC
Don't.know if it would "work", for you anyways, but please do this. It sounds like so much fun
Othran
Route One
#6 - 2012-12-11 19:59:35 UTC
This will only work in rented systems. Go ahead and try by all means but the only people desperate enough to pay you will be renters Blink
YuuKnow
The Scope
#7 - 2012-12-12 03:44:46 UTC
Highlighing two borked parts of Eve. Current jump mechanics and afk cloaking.

yk
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-12-12 08:22:23 UTC
only botters will pay a ransom, everyone else will just move.

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#9 - 2012-12-12 16:14:38 UTC
YuuKnow wrote:
Highlighing two borked parts of Eve. Current jump mechanics and the local intel channel.

yk

FYP although the jump mechanic is debatable.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

Morgan Torry
Arma Purgatorium
#10 - 2012-12-12 16:17:06 UTC
Please come to Black Rise and test your theory, Zzamba. If we don't pay your ransom, bring your hordes. Big smile

Arma Purgatorium - What is Podded May Never Die

Dzajic
#11 - 2012-12-12 18:01:38 UTC
Gankers, 9 (soon to be 10) years of non-stop whining about "broken local chat providing tactical intel". Just ball up and go to WH space if you hate local chat so much.
xRyokenx
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2012-12-13 12:51:18 UTC
Morgan Torry wrote:
Please come to Black Rise and test your theory, Zzamba. If we don't pay your ransom, bring your hordes. Big smile



Who are you? Have you done something remotely important in the last 10 years?
Zoe Panala
Blobcats
#13 - 2012-12-13 15:27:02 UTC
Zzamba wrote:
So i have several alts that can fly an Arazu (this Toon included) who's fitted with a covert cyno, a normal cyno and multiple webs and distruptors.


My main + 2 alts has black ops ships that are in range and can bridge about 30 bombers + support on top of people.

My plan of action is as followed, Camp a system until they pay a ransom, until they pay the ransom i do not leave the system, as this is after all an alt who can be left online 23/7 and keep dropping fleets on top of people..

The ransom part supposedly works, after all whats 250-500m to a few guys eh?

Is this a viable way of disrupting traffic in a whole region?

Lets see.


Seeing how I can make 500m in about 10 minutes in lowsec without playing the fabled "end game"* of EVE, I'd say you should ask for more.

*a.k.a. noobsec
replicator 0001
Nullbear Tear Extractors
Hostile Intervention
#14 - 2012-12-14 13:26:25 UTC
It helps when you camp 32 systems so there pretty much isn't anywhere else to go.

If you just camp 2, they will go meh and move.

From my experience, they don't care when you camp ALL their systems and just happily rat and mine while ignoring you.
Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
#15 - 2012-12-14 13:35:49 UTC
3 characters + 30 men bombers fleet to earn 250-500 mil??

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#16 - 2012-12-14 17:59:53 UTC
Zzamba wrote:
Morgan Torry wrote:
Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
Unless you find a very lucrative system, people will just move.


Your plan only works if it is targeting those who are adverse to combat.


IRC


Thats rather amusing from someone who semi-AFK camps, while we take on double or three times our numbers in direct large scale fleet fights, take the CSAA in Q-VTWJ. That being said, come here and waste your time with the multiple campers we already have, in fact its got to the point where we often have more cloaky campers in our systems then IRC toons, its quite funny at times, all I can say is you guys must be really really bored... Hold on, I thought FA was camping HBC space, those alliances in the HBC that are not blue to the CFC, something must have happened there, interesting!

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

xRyokenx
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#17 - 2012-12-17 12:52:50 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Zzamba wrote:
Morgan Torry wrote:
Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
Unless you find a very lucrative system, people will just move.


Your plan only works if it is targeting those who are adverse to combat.


IRC


Thats rather amusing from someone who semi-AFK camps, while we take on double or three times our numbers in direct large scale fleet fights, take the CSAA in Q-VTWJ. That being said, come here and waste your time with the multiple campers we already have, in fact its got to the point where we often have more cloaky campers in our systems then IRC toons, its quite funny at times, all I can say is you guys must be really really bored... Hold on, I thought FA was camping HBC space, those alliances in the HBC that are not blue to the CFC, something must have happened there, interesting!


Its also quite interesting to see in your alliance chat that you are evacing Cobalt Edge. Is this why you have more afk cloakers than IRC toons?

Im also interested to know where you are planning to move too, kitchen sink fleets are not the best fleets to do sov warfare with.
Dewa Cinta
Horrible Mining Corp
#18 - 2012-12-17 15:41:04 UTC
Sura Sadiva wrote:
3 characters + 30 men bombers fleet to earn 250-500 mil??



Bombers will be happy to just blow something up.

I'm pretty sure the cloaky will be the only one getting the isk.
AndromacheDarkstar
Integrated Insterstellar Holdings
#19 - 2012-12-17 16:30:42 UTC
Sounds kind of fun, i welcome a tonne of black ops BS and recon to shoot at. I wish more people would drop those kinds of fleets around, less carriers and more shiny battleships
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#20 - 2012-12-17 20:03:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
xRyokenx wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Zzamba wrote:
Morgan Torry wrote:
Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
Unless you find a very lucrative system, people will just move.


Your plan only works if it is targeting those who are adverse to combat.


IRC


Thats rather amusing from someone who semi-AFK camps, while we take on double or three times our numbers in direct large scale fleet fights, take the CSAA in Q-VTWJ. That being said, come here and waste your time with the multiple campers we already have, in fact its got to the point where we often have more cloaky campers in our systems then IRC toons, its quite funny at times, all I can say is you guys must be really really bored... Hold on, I thought FA was camping HBC space, those alliances in the HBC that are not blue to the CFC, something must have happened there, interesting!


Its also quite interesting to see in your alliance chat that you are evacing Cobalt Edge. Is this why you have more afk cloakers than IRC toons?

Im also interested to know where you are planning to move too, kitchen sink fleets are not the best fleets to do sov warfare with.


The funny thing is that today I made the decision to move most of my expensive ships out and did just that. However I have a hanger with combat ships which I will continue to fight with up until they are all destroyed, I owe that at least to IRC. Personally I think it is a losing fight, it is impossible for an alliance like IRC which relies on grinding to pay for its PvP to fight against a massive coalition with such a huge all powering passive income. Yes much of the attack is Razor, but the CFC is backing Razor, such as the timer in HB. The reason we have so many cloakies is because this is a full on stop IRC from making income to be able to fight, as the players supply their own ships this has resulted in a falling off in numbers. or ends with the use of whatever you can get your hands on, such as a kitchen sink fleet.

The invasion as such is for fights, but its very obvious that we have not a hope in hell of winning any fights, if we do then in comes the CFC en masse, what is the point, the invasion for fights is now turning into a sov grind and it is one we cannot win, even without CCP having database issues which re-set the SBU in RGU back to 80% armour from 40% after the crash.

So here you go, the CFC and allies have won Eve, and soon I will be back in High Sec, and I will not be coming back to sov 0.0 until the new POS system is implemented. I am even contemplating putting my accounts on ice until such time, because at the end of the day while I enjoy a fight, I do not enjoy a totally hopeless one against such stupid odds, and bluntly put I cannot blame many IRC pilots for coming to that decision. That there are many that are still fighting says a lot about them and they have my total respect, you guys play Eve on easy with full passive paid for PVP, we don't, so have your victory hollow that it is, the CFC is Eve on easy...

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp