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Is it even possible to get into a corp these days without full API submission?
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#61 - 2012-12-17 15:35:25 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Donn Red wrote:
I have been cruising the recruitment forums for the last couple of weeks, and it seems like everyone who is anyone wants full API. As if that wasn't enough, some want full API for all accounts! My situation is rather unique for quite a number of reasons, and I find the prospect of giving out all of my API keys extremely unsettling.

Before you tell me, "you must have something to hide", ask yourself, are you comfortable with random people knowing who ALL of your alts are, what you are buying/selling, and where you get your isk from?

I also don't want to hear about how I fail at compartmentalizing my characters; I know how to transfer items between characters without it appearing on an API. I shouldn't have to act like a spy to get into a corp.


Am I paranoid for not wanting random people to know what color my underpants are before I even speak to them on voice?

Sounds like something a spy would say

No, but that sounds like something a spy would say, just to seed suspicion and malcontent.


…sorry, I've been playing too much resistance lately — everyone but me is a spy (except when I am one)! Evil
RomeStar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#62 - 2012-12-17 15:41:49 UTC
Ptraci wrote:
Donn Red wrote:
I have been cruising the recruitment forums for the last couple of weeks, and it seems like everyone who is anyone wants full API.

Am I paranoid for not wanting random people to know what color my underpants are before I even speak to them on voice?


Yup. Hey I know. Make your own corp, don't demand full API, and see what happens.



Yup it happens all the time I guess your the only idiot who gives full apis to people you dont know.

Signatured removed, CCP Phantom
Blacko Bellamy
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#63 - 2012-12-17 15:59:05 UTC
Malcanis wrote:


Sounds like something a spy would say


Best idea how to use full api: Make a trade app to help other traders, restricted access only with full api = big profit for the developer.

Or become corp recruiter and sell full APIs to the enemy. It is far easier, if somebody finds a bunch of idiots, who give out their full API of all their accounts, to abuse these full api than actually hunt spies for real.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#64 - 2012-12-17 16:17:53 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Donn Red wrote:
I have been cruising the recruitment forums for the last couple of weeks, and it seems like everyone who is anyone wants full API. As if that wasn't enough, some want full API for all accounts! My situation is rather unique for quite a number of reasons, and I find the prospect of giving out all of my API keys extremely unsettling.

Before you tell me, "you must have something to hide", ask yourself, are you comfortable with random people knowing who ALL of your alts are, what you are buying/selling, and where you get your isk from?

I also don't want to hear about how I fail at compartmentalizing my characters; I know how to transfer items between characters without it appearing on an API. I shouldn't have to act like a spy to get into a corp.


Am I paranoid for not wanting random people to know what color my underpants are before I even speak to them on voice?

Sounds like something a spy would say

No, but that sounds like something a spy would say, just to seed suspicion and malcontent.


…sorry, I've been playing too much resistance lately — everyone but me is a spy (except when I am one)! Evil



Your insidious attempt to undermine our counter intelligence work will fail, Agent Tippia!

If that is your real name Straight

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Ginger Barbarella
#65 - 2012-12-17 16:19:50 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Donn Red wrote:
I have been cruising the recruitment forums for the last couple of weeks, and it seems like everyone who is anyone wants full API. As if that wasn't enough, some want full API for all accounts! My situation is rather unique for quite a number of reasons, and I find the prospect of giving out all of my API keys extremely unsettling.

Before you tell me, "you must have something to hide", ask yourself, are you comfortable with random people knowing who ALL of your alts are, what you are buying/selling, and where you get your isk from?

I also don't want to hear about how I fail at compartmentalizing my characters; I know how to transfer items between characters without it appearing on an API. I shouldn't have to act like a spy to get into a corp.


Am I paranoid for not wanting random people to know what color my underpants are before I even speak to them on voice?

Sounds like something a spy would say

No, but that sounds like something a spy would say



I once heard a spy say THAT! But he didn't provide anyone with his FULL API, so I can certainly see how he was successful. If only we'd asked for his API, he wouldn't have been able to spy!

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Liam Li
Kings.Guard.
#66 - 2012-12-17 16:27:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Liam Li
De'Veldrin wrote:
Merouk Baas wrote:
NEONOVUS wrote:
What is in a full API that is so bad for the giver?


What's so bad in your Facebook when your boss or interviewer asks you for your password?


I've never had a potential employer ask for this, but I already have my response ready:

"Unfortunately, as it's against the terms of service I signed with Facebook, I cannot provide you with my account password. I am sure you wouldn't want me to start my employment with you by violating an agreement with another party at your request, would you?"

I keep hoping I'll get to use that response one day.

Edit to be on topic:
I don't give out my full API, simple as that. If they request a partial API as part of the recruitment process, I create one that gives exactly the information they ask for and no more, and set the expiry for about 5 days. If they don't check it in that amount of time, they don't need to.


Hell TBH If I was really desperate for a JOB, I would gladly hand out my Facebook password, Why? Because your stupid if you put out any RL sensitive information on the internet especially on a social networking site ::lol:: , I'm trying hard not to swear, but people are so dumb. Facebook sells your information to advertising services anyway.
Terms of services are meaningless "You will not bully, intimidate, or harass any user." yeah...

This applies to eve as well, I don't mind giving out my full API, and I prefer them nosing about my stuff, while I'm in comms with them. People take this game way too seriously jeez.

"Did I do That"....Nice Corpse
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#67 - 2012-12-17 17:28:21 UTC
after reading only the title: yes.

one thing I don't understand about APIs is why people still demand them if people can just use an alt for whatever, or just to apply with their alt to join and keep their main toon a secret.
Warde Guildencrantz
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#68 - 2012-12-17 17:29:34 UTC
yes, let's build corps based solely on trust, that has gone well in the past

has to be a bit of trust and a bit of commitment. Full APIs are not much to be honest. No one's going to shun you for selling exotic dancers.

TunDraGon ~ Low sec piracy since 2003 ~ Youtube ~ Join Us
Trendon Evenstar
Olympus Gods
#69 - 2012-12-17 17:33:34 UTC
Donn Red wrote:
I have been cruising the recruitment forums for the last couple of weeks, and it seems like everyone who is anyone wants full API


OP- if you find a corp that is relaxed with the API let us know, I got some awoxing guys ready to be burned.
Merouk Baas
#70 - 2012-12-17 17:38:37 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
If that is your real name Straight


It's not, her real name is Tippis, and the changing of that last letter suggests espionage.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#71 - 2012-12-17 17:42:13 UTC
Trendon Evenstar wrote:
Donn Red wrote:
I have been cruising the recruitment forums for the last couple of weeks, and it seems like everyone who is anyone wants full API

OP- if you find a corp that is relaxed with the API let us know, I got some awoxing guys ready to be burned.

Well... that's one way to "use" the thread.

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