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CSM Chairman Buying Success?

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Helena Russell Makanen
DRRUSSEL
#21 - 2011-10-23 07:16:46 UTC
Andski wrote:
Helena Russell Makanen wrote:
Thanks for posting this, when I read it I literally laughed out loud. Poor mittens, showing he supports (and indeed buys) things that give an in-game advantage on top of the CEO of CCP expressing publicly concerns about the null sec slant of the CSM.

Well you reap what you sow as my Grandma always said. Comforting she was right.



Could you show me where The Mittani has publicly spoken out against character sales for ISK?


What? As far as I know neither the OP, nor myself, nor anyone else claimed such a thing????

If you read more carefully, what was said is that he and the CSM came out against buying in-game advantages. If you think buying a fully trained character instead of training it over time doesn't fall under that, then not much anyone can say to change your mind.

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#22 - 2011-10-23 07:23:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
Helena Russell Makanen wrote:
Andski wrote:
Helena Russell Makanen wrote:
Thanks for posting this, when I read it I literally laughed out loud. Poor mittens, showing he supports (and indeed buys) things that give an in-game advantage on top of the CEO of CCP expressing publicly concerns about the null sec slant of the CSM.

Well you reap what you sow as my Grandma always said. Comforting she was right.



Could you show me where The Mittani has publicly spoken out against character sales for ISK?


What? As far as I know neither the OP, nor myself, nor anyone else claimed such a thing????

If you read more carefully, what was said is that he and the CSM came out against buying in-game advantages. If you think buying a fully trained character instead of training it over time doesn't fall under that, then not much anyone can say to change your mind.


Right, they came out against the availability of non-vanity items for Aurum. They've never spoken out against character sales or timecodes. Also, why the hell would he spend over a year training a goddamn link alt if he has huge piles of ISK to simply buy one with? There is nothing wrong with that.

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Tukucommin
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2011-10-23 07:23:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Tukucommin
So....you are implying that Mittens bought plex for 15b and bought a character with it?.....That is 30 plex or somewhere around that area. If this is what you are implying that is around 450 US Dollars.

If things do not make sense they normally are not true.

Also if your point is buying a pre trained character is the same type of advantage of say buying implants or ships for cash. Using this argument I am going to assume that you mean he made the isk in game through normal means (if not see above) or maybe took out a lone from his corp even. He did not do it without putting some sort of work in. 15Billion is allot of isk to make.
Dradius Calvantia
Lip Shords
#24 - 2011-10-23 07:25:44 UTC
Helena Russell Makanen wrote:

What? As far as I know neither the OP, nor myself, nor anyone else claimed such a thing????

If you read more carefully, what was said is that he and the CSM came out against buying in-game advantages. If you think buying a fully trained character instead of training it over time doesn't fall under that, then not much anyone can say to change your mind.


If you were arguing about Mittens buying a character with RL money that would make sense.

Mittens is buying an in game asset, with in game isk...

What is next, "This just in, Mittens spent isk to buy a Bruitix hull!!! He is paying to win, some one save us all!"
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#25 - 2011-10-23 07:30:53 UTC
Pay to win is NOT paying in game currency for in game advantages.

It is paying real currency for advantages you cannot get any other way.

If you are going to use a meme, at least make an effort to understand what it means.

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John Caesse
Just Post Inc.
#26 - 2011-10-23 07:41:57 UTC
People have been buying and selling characters, with ISK, facilitated and monitored by CCP, for as long as the game has been alive.

Incoming thread: Mittens buys a brutix, OH THE HYPOCRISY!
Jovan Geldon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2011-10-23 08:53:02 UTC
Who is this "many" that thinks buying characters is cheating?
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#28 - 2011-10-23 09:24:53 UTC
Jovan Geldon wrote:
Who is this "many" that thinks buying characters is cheating?


Figments of the OP's imagination.

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Guy Grand
Doomheim
#29 - 2011-10-23 10:31:42 UTC
Dalketh wrote:
Sure some people think buying skills/characters is OK, many think it cheating, but was very surprised to find the CSM chairman doing it openly...

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=226516#post226516

Glad to see he sticks by his word of no transactions for game play advantages. Roll



This is the dumbest thing I have read, ever.
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#30 - 2011-10-23 10:31:48 UTC
Oh **** mittens bought an alt. Stop the presses.

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Cerisia
Red Phoenix Rising
#31 - 2011-10-23 11:00:35 UTC
Dalketh wrote:
Sure some people think buying skills/characters is OK, many think it cheating, but was very surprised to find the CSM chairman doing it openly...

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=226516#post226516

Glad to see he sticks by his word of no transactions for game play advantages. Roll




This is truely pathetic..
This space for rent..
The Mittani
State War Academy
Caldari State
#32 - 2011-10-23 11:11:46 UTC
Dalketh wrote:
Sure some people think buying skills/characters is OK, many think it cheating, but was very surprised to find the CSM chairman doing it openly...

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=226516#post226516

Glad to see he sticks by his word of no transactions for game play advantages. Roll



WOAH THE CHAIRMAN OF THE CSM BOUGHT A CHARACTER

christ, you people

~hi~
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#33 - 2011-10-23 11:23:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
i am outraged, outraged by this development

what's next, is the mittani going to buy a ship? fittings!?

this cannot stand


The Mittani wrote:
*bought a legion and outfitted it with warfare links (many people think that using links is cheating!!!!)


e;fb

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tgl3
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2011-10-23 11:26:17 UTC  |  Edited by: tgl3
Dalketh wrote:
Sure some people think buying skills/characters is OK, many think it cheating, but was very surprised to find the CSM chairman doing it openly...

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=226516#post226516

Glad to see he sticks by his word of no transactions for game play advantages. Roll


Dumbest thing I've read all week.
zama118
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2011-10-23 11:33:57 UTC
Dalketh wrote:
[quote=Skunk Gracklaw]
No one said it was against the rules? Just surprising that a person supposedly (and publicly) against isk for in game advantages would do such a thing.


so wait a second
your saying i cant use ISK for ingame advantages...

so i cant buy any ships, mods or goods?

people who play the game earn ISK (some buy ISK but thats another matter) they should be allowed to use that ISK any way they see fit (as long as it fits in the game rules)
Mittani has a lot of ISK, so he has a lot of advantages. this is the way the game works. in fact thats the way all MMO's work reward you for our successes
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#36 - 2011-10-23 11:34:43 UTC
zama118 wrote:
Dalketh wrote:
[quote=Skunk Gracklaw]
No one said it was against the rules? Just surprising that a person supposedly (and publicly) against isk for in game advantages would do such a thing.


so wait a second
your saying i cant use ISK for ingame advantages...

so i cant buy any ships, mods or goods?

people who play the game earn ISK (some buy ISK but thats another matter) they should be allowed to use that ISK any way they see fit (as long as it fits in the game rules)
Mittani has a lot of ISK, so he has a lot of advantages. this is the way the game works. in fact thats the way all MMO's work reward you for our successes



the only thing you should ever do with ISK is buy skillbooks and trash them

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Tanya Fox
Doomheim
#37 - 2011-10-23 11:36:41 UTC
Dalketh wrote:
Glad to see he sticks by his word of no transactions for game play advantages. Roll





I don't see that as a true advantage where the other characters in Eve are concerned.

It's not like the character was not in the Eve universe already, all it is is a change of ownership.



You can argue that every single person that has an alt has an advantage over those that do not. Do you see people complaining about people allowed to have alts? No, of course not.
Cerisia
Red Phoenix Rising
#38 - 2011-10-23 12:05:36 UTC
Rhes wrote:
Hey OP, I have some intel about The Mittani using a MOUSE & KEYBOARD while playing Eve which gives him an advantage over all other players. Contact me for verification




I hear that The Mittani uses a monitor, giving him a clear advantage over people who don't!
This space for rent..
Big Bad Mofo
Doomheim
#39 - 2011-10-23 12:53:07 UTC
Mittani doesnt have fans, and im not one, but there is nothing wrong with this. Everyone buys and sells characters.

Please explain how this is buying success? Yes better chars, better success in that way. But again theres nothing wrong morally with it.

/edit damn i just stuck up for mittani ;)
Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#40 - 2011-10-23 13:06:29 UTC
Skunk Gracklaw wrote:
Since when is buying a character in the official character bazaar forum against the rules? The extent that you guys go to in the attempts to smear Mittens is astounding.


Agreed, I'd love to get by a day without somebody mentioning The Mittani, but I also wish for a day where there is no troll in the EVE-ONLINE forums.

You can't always get what you want.

PS: People buy chars all the time, but its what you do with them what counts.

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