Crime & Punishment

It's just not going to happened. Most of the ideas ARE good, but have to consider the player-base that would get the opportunity to "catch" the criminal. I may be wrong, but I want to say most are miners, mission-runners and some doing exploration (I'm not considering players camped at station). I liked the idea that Concorde does warp in, but doesn't insta pop the criminal when it comes times for Concord to attack, instead scrams and waits for players to show up and take part. How long is the warp scram? I'm assuming it would represent system security, so 1.0 would be... idk 45s? And 0.5 would be 20? Just examples to help everyone understand. But more importantly who's going to come? And who gets to find out? Should everybody find out.. even the station traders? Or just the ones already in a ship in system? If it's the former, then you could be looking at being able to bring in more people.. Maybe there's a PvP pilot in a PvP ship sitting in station doing the spins. If you go with the latter, well then I don't think very many people will show up unless they themselves, or that system in particular has great communication. But no matter how I look at this I see most players being too afraid to do anything and the ones that aren't, which will be a much smaller number, can't be everywhere all the time. And even if somehow high-sec players were motivated to always -no matter what- attack/warp-in/assist Concord against criminals, do you think the pirates wont come back with force, or simply come in from the start with force? I believe high-sec would be a war-zone if this happened... which would be great

But I fear a lot of people would eventually leave.

PS: I loved the pvpve idea even if it was a joke, I forgot who wrote that, but that sounded way fun!

Nullsec ---->

removal of concord would mean that most of the bears with high end modules missioning in high sec in order to pay for null/pvp would drop off, leaving those few victims we do get with barely enough dropped isk for us to live on.

HOWEVER

the logistics of running such a massive fleet i feel are not viable, on the scale that eve purports at least.

i vastly favour highsec pockets in predominantly lowsec, with many more routes created to dampen the risk of gate death lottery.

players have shown that we can take utterly lawless space and make it avaliable and safe for our alliance members.

i personally think that in 0.8 space and less, concord should not be present - but instead faction navy responds based on time - so 30 seconds a navy spawn appears in 0.8 with an increase of 30 seconds per .1 reduction in security.

the spawn should be based on the agressors ship, should be tankable (albeit harder than gate guns)

and should be based on pvp player setups.

they should also drop loot, and of course, any action taken against them '8including returning fire) results in an instant -10 with that faction,

this would lead to players actually roleplaying their respective factions better, as im pretty sure the minmatar state truly hates me alot more than s represented at the moment.

Have the placing of "legal" bounties cost something, in addition to ISK. Something that prevents people from spamming bounties; like LP, or even Sec Status.

Here are some ideas:

• Perhaps the capability of placing bounties could be dependent on the player's credibility/respectability (LP or Sec Status) with factions.




• Placing a bounty, no matter the ISK amount, would cost some credibility/respectability that would have to be earned back to do it again.






• Someone who constantly places bounties would eventually "**** off" that faction and they would have to work up their reputation.



• If Bounties were to cost LP, you could only use LP that is considered an Enemy to the targets faction (meaning the target has to have negative faction to the LP source)

• Perhaps the higher the Sec Status of the target the more it costs to place a bounty on them. and i mean exponentially higher.

The problem isn't the bounty system, it is the loop holes and abuse of the bounty system.

I think you sorta glossed over the important point there. Players are good at making space safe for their friends, not for everyone. Player police in high-sec would do the same thing: make space safe for their friends, not everyone.

Concord should be nerfed a bit. How about realistic warping timers other than just instantly showing up and killing everything in a 2000 AU radius in under 10 seconds.

The removal of CONCORD, why on Earth would anyone want that? Other than to harass those who make a living in high-sec because they choose not to venture out into the wilderness of null-sec.

IMHO, people who uphold the law in high-sec (and those that possess a humanitarian nature) should be able to work alongside CONCORD e.g. have a module or a probe that you can activate to call in CONCORD reinforcements, or be able to earn CONCORD-specialised weaponry/defensive modules.

For too long, the law breakers of this Universe have gotten away with murder (quite literally), and its' time the honest & virtuous were rewarded for their efforts and sacrifices to defend those that are weaker than them.

We do not want another Jita or Dodixie incident like that of which occurred earlier on this year, those aiding CONCORD should be allowed to bring whatever firepower they need in-order to defend the innocent, whereas the perpetrators should be dealt with swiftly.

Think of it like factional warfare but you join the side of CONCORD in maintaining peace.

Right now, you already get a sec status buff for blowing away outlaws (-5 sec status or lower) IIRC.

For everybody that wants CONCORD removed...remember why CCP uber buffed them to begin with?

Remember MoO?

I, personally, think removing stargates and giving every ship a jump drive would be a better way to get folks out in to null.....

Oh yah, so awesome

I just can't wait to have "police" show up in my level 4 mission and start shooting me because I didn't pay them a "tax" to be able to mission in a 0.7 system.

Remove CONCORD for more than a few days (such as a "special" or LIVE event type weekend) and you DESTROY High Sec.

Destroy High Sec and several memorable things would happen in the short term, to the game economy, as pilots quickly ran out of barges, mission ships and freighters and, of course, sufficient ISK to keep the economy rolling.

Following that, many players would quit -- they'd quickly get tired of getting ganked, the "FUN FACTOR" effectively disappearing for those not into "involuntary" PVP.

CCP sees it's revenues take a nosedive ... see above, concerning players quitting.

Think it won't happen ? Or maybe some folks think removing "Concord" is just a great way to hit the "reset" button ?

OR... maybe CCP remembers "The SHITSTORM" from a couple of years ago....