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DeBingJos
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#121 - 2012-12-15 11:57:09 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
Lirinas wrote:
It's good to see Snowball return after a very long absence.

I only have one concern//question. Was it intentional to make the "Festival Launchers" actual require a Launcher hardpoint? I'm pretty sure the old Snowball Launchers only required a high slot - no launcher or turret hardpoints needed.
Indeed they only required a high slot before; but since then we have added missile launchers as models on the ships, as turrets have been for a long time, and we needed to make sure there were slots available on the ship model to accommodate multiple launchers should you buy more from other players off the market. A module can require a missile launcher slot or a turret slot or neither, we didn't want to experiment with what would happen in the code if a module required either.


Salvagers have a visual model and don't require a turret or launcher slot.

Ungi maðurinn þekkir reglurnar, en gamli maðurinn þekkir undantekningarnar. The young man knows the rules, but the old man knows the exceptions.

Dex Tera
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#122 - 2012-12-15 13:19:26 UTC
DeBingJos wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
Lirinas wrote:
It's good to see Snowball return after a very long absence.

I only have one concern//question. Was it intentional to make the "Festival Launchers" actual require a Launcher hardpoint? I'm pretty sure the old Snowball Launchers only required a high slot - no launcher or turret hardpoints needed.
Indeed they only required a high slot before; but since then we have added missile launchers as models on the ships, as turrets have been for a long time, and we needed to make sure there were slots available on the ship model to accommodate multiple launchers should you buy more from other players off the market. A module can require a missile launcher slot or a turret slot or neither, we didn't want to experiment with what would happen in the code if a module required either.


Salvagers have a visual model and don't require a turret or launcher slot.

a salvager is not a turret or a launcher!
DeBingJos
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#123 - 2012-12-15 17:21:51 UTC
Dex Tera wrote:
DeBingJos wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
Lirinas wrote:
It's good to see Snowball return after a very long absence.

I only have one concern//question. Was it intentional to make the "Festival Launchers" actual require a Launcher hardpoint? I'm pretty sure the old Snowball Launchers only required a high slot - no launcher or turret hardpoints needed.
Indeed they only required a high slot before; but since then we have added missile launchers as models on the ships, as turrets have been for a long time, and we needed to make sure there were slots available on the ship model to accommodate multiple launchers should you buy more from other players off the market. A module can require a missile launcher slot or a turret slot or neither, we didn't want to experiment with what would happen in the code if a module required either.


Salvagers have a visual model and don't require a turret or launcher slot.

a salvager is not a turret or a launcher!


It behaves the same, You fit it on your ship, target something and activate it:

Ungi maðurinn þekkir reglurnar, en gamli maðurinn þekkir undantekningarnar. The young man knows the rules, but the old man knows the exceptions.

Keko Khaan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#124 - 2012-12-15 19:29:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Keko Khaan
Thelonious Blake wrote:
Thank you for EVE. This is an incredible game like no other I've ever played.


I do agree.. Alltho patches and changes havent made me happy on all occasions.. Not all changes are good and stuff...


Merry Xmas to CCP anyways Big smile
iskflakes
#125 - 2012-12-16 14:41:12 UTC
DeBingJos wrote:


It behaves the same, You fit it on your ship, target something and activate it:


It doesn't launch missiles. It's a shame I can't fit snowballs to non-missile ships, but frankly it's not a huge issue and it wouldn't justify the development time to make it work (in my opinion). Excluding my reservations about bringing back old collector's items, I think CCP have done a great job with these snowballs, and now I'm just seriously hoping they don't give out more of them (or more launchers) until at least next Christmas ... I'm trying to make it big as a snowball speculator :)

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Irregessa
Obfuscation and Reflections
#126 - 2012-12-16 19:50:44 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
Lirinas wrote:
It's good to see Snowball return after a very long absence.

I only have one concern//question. Was it intentional to make the "Festival Launchers" actual require a Launcher hardpoint? I'm pretty sure the old Snowball Launchers only required a high slot - no launcher or turret hardpoints needed.
Indeed they only required a high slot before; but since then we have added missile launchers as models on the ships, as turrets have been for a long time, and we needed to make sure there were slots available on the ship model to accommodate multiple launchers should you buy more from other players off the market. A module can require a missile launcher slot or a turret slot or neither, we didn't want to experiment with what would happen in the code if a module required either.



:sigh: I so wanted to have three launchers on my Revelation...
Reaper Chambers
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#127 - 2012-12-17 15:25:15 UTC
My birthday is the day before Christmas!

Fun right?

Not really.

HOWEVER...

CCP, you guys try to make this more than a game with your snowballs, fireworks, and other crazy ideas.

I totally appreciate that and thank you so very much!

Now off to harvest noob tears and form them into more snowballs...
Vaya DeLopasz
OWL Initiative
Dark Taboo
#128 - 2012-12-17 17:27:21 UTC
snowballs and fireworks were always a great community item on our uo shard too, as were chocolate eggs left behind by a scripted ultra rapid much hunted easter bunny, never seen my players and my staff being happy about any scripting i have done until then and since.

however it is sad, that snowballs cannot be produced. while being in my position as a dev for an mmo makes me understand the basic thought behind limiting them, i cannot really agree as a player - there should be a blueprint, even if expensive (as like all 4 ice sorts to produce 100 ).
Sidrat Flush
School of Applied Knowledge
#129 - 2012-12-17 23:11:19 UTC
Haven't read all of the thread so apologies if I'm not the first, but I think fireworks should act like a bomb. You launch, it goes in a straight line and goes pop in sounds and colour at a specified distance.

This would open up a whole host of fire work shows and in this 3D area your viewpoint could produce a totally different show to someone on the opposite side - or 100 KM directly below you.

That I hope people would agree would be totally awesome.

Its time to stand up against the bad empire based CEO telling falsehoods about what new characters can accomplish and pushing them towards an in game experience of drudgery and loneliness keeping them in the shadow of ignorance for at nest their own profit at worse apathy towards all the experiences that Eve has to offer.
Typhus Corbec
Magnum Inustrial Group
#130 - 2012-12-19 03:02:31 UTC
CCP, don't stop here! Please seak out and destroy all remaining game immursion in EVE. I sudgest you could complete this by adding vanity pets that follow your space ship arount, allowing players to decorate their ships in cute little outfits, or even by making raptor mounts that players can ride around inside space stations. After all, EVE is one of the last good MMOs that isnt full of this crap and this should be rectifided ASAP.
Sidrat Flush
School of Applied Knowledge
#131 - 2012-12-19 08:47:54 UTC
Typhus Corbec wrote:
CCP, don't stop here! Please seak out and destroy all remaining game immursion in EVE. I sudgest you could complete this by adding vanity pets that follow your space ship arount, allowing players to decorate their ships in cute little outfits, or even by making raptor mounts that players can ride around inside space stations. After all, EVE is one of the last good MMOs that isnt full of this crap and this should be rectifided ASAP.


You're an immortal pod pilot travelling in space in vehicles capable of death and destruction on an unimaginable scale able to travel the stars at the speed of light (or faster) and your worried about immersion because of a festival launcher.

Its time to stand up against the bad empire based CEO telling falsehoods about what new characters can accomplish and pushing them towards an in game experience of drudgery and loneliness keeping them in the shadow of ignorance for at nest their own profit at worse apathy towards all the experiences that Eve has to offer.
Aplier Shivra
#132 - 2012-12-20 16:53:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Aplier Shivra
Dear CCP,
I'd like to start by saying that I love you guys and I love the gives. I'd like to follow that up with what the [expletive] is this bull[expletive]! I just bought the Genolution implant set as an early christmas gift to myself, and what do I get for christmas from you guys? Why, nothing more than a Genolution implant! That was definitely not a part of the list I sent you, and I demand a refund!

p.s. please don't actually give me a refund, I don't mind keeping it as a spare <3
Lin Gi'Do
Red Bull Industries
#133 - 2012-12-20 18:54:17 UTC
Typhus Corbec wrote:
I sudgest you could complete this by adding vanity pets that follow your space ship arount,


They already exist. They are called Drones.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#134 - 2012-12-20 20:19:18 UTC
Well these gifts and the way they were randomized totally exceeded my expectations- thanks CCP!

Awesome <3

.
Haifisch Zahne
Hraka Manufacture GmbH
#135 - 2012-12-20 21:45:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Haifisch Zahne
CCP has committed a grave Logical Error in Reasoning. They are under a misunderstanding of the difference between Universal Instantiation and Existential Generalization.

Universal Instantiation is "a valid rule of inference from a truth about each member of a class of individuals to the truth about a particular individual of that class." Example: 'All men are mammals. Socrates is a man. Therefore, Socrates is a mammal.

Existential Generalization is "a valid rule of inference that allows one to move from a specific statement to a quantified generalized statement." Example: Socrates is a man. Therefore, something is a man.

To quote Shakespeare, "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet." By CCP's line of confused and unsound reasoning, they have come to believe that "A turd by any other name would smell as sweet."
Haifisch Zahne
Hraka Manufacture GmbH
#136 - 2012-12-20 22:52:54 UTC
However, to get with the festive spirit of the season, I did just buy a pair of "boots.ini" in memory of CCP's historic past (blunder).
Silath Slyver Silverpine
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#137 - 2012-12-21 01:05:42 UTC
If the boots.ini were a plot to get me to buy a skirt for this character, it worked. Pants just don't really match.
And then, of course, I had to buy a new shirt . . . and one of those cool synthetic eyes.

Bad Biddy
Enigma Company
Novus Ordo.
#138 - 2012-12-22 12:34:12 UTC
I feel like this is just one big troll that everyone else is in on apart from me...
Alexander Renoir
Covenant Trading Agency
#139 - 2012-12-24 15:09:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Alexander Renoir
I have two accounts with ALL 6 slots full of Caldari Pilots. Now I have 2 Gallente Imicus ships. The fact that CCP barely seeded Herons is a little bit strange.

No "thanks" from me. Sorry. But what should I do with two ugly Imicus? Trading versus a Heron which are barely in game? Roll
Please stop giving away such pointless gifts. Really.. instead of that just do nothing.

I am more than dissapointed from CCP.. Not only because of the gifts... because of ALL last changes. Cry
Who is your leading game designer at CCP? What does he think about this?

Two accounts canceled.. again.. NOT only because of the gifts! Because of the horrible bounty mechanic and the stolen Jukebox and this bothersome new sounds. Where can I disable them till my subscription runs out? /o\

However: Merry Christmas. Smile
Che Biko
Alexylva Paradox
#140 - 2012-12-24 20:09:51 UTC