EVE General Discussion

Snipped moderator discussion - ISD Suvetar

The decision-makers have made it clear what they think of high sec.
Whatever is planned is a done deal, and no amount of posting on these forums by the high sec players will change anything.
We lost, they won.

High sec players have 2 choices: Either quit the game or wait it out, hoping that other people un-subbing might turn CCP's collective mind around. Naturally the null sec zealots will suggest a 3rd option, that of moving to null sec.
I of course can't speak for all high sec players, but have spoken with enough to know that option is not an option for at all for many , many high sec players.

Whatever decision you make, it is pointless to post your opinions here, as the null sec zealots will not be swayed by your arguments, and through CCP's actions over the past few years, I have little doubt how much respect CCP has for the high sec viewpoint.

So high sec players, save your time and righteous anger posting on these forums.
Spend your time enjoying whatever scraps are left for you in high sec, because they are dwindling fast, and will continue on that path.

Highsec is broken, either reduce the rewards or increase the risk.

Everybody always thinks they've got it worse off. Get over yourself, stop whining, and play the game instead of sitting in station looking for a win button.

EVE is a nice model of the natural order.

Adapt or die.

I guess you died.

If Low and Null where fine, then no one would care about Highsec.

Wait, I thought you quit weeks ago, you're still here ?


[ just FYI he was the first person butthurt about the drone changes and is still the person with the post rage posts regarding this topic ]

Also this "problem's" iteration process is going just fine, as can be see here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=182826&find=unread
(Additionally the linked thread contains another wonderful and helpful post from the this topic's creator)

Transferable kill rights are the best thing since sliced bread. It is very clear that The Powers That Be desire more player-driven mechanics. So here is more work they have done to put the fun back into functional gameplay.

But in your case you have decided that the Level One AI is the worst thing to happen to the game since … I dunno, the NeX perhaps? That's fine. Have your opinion, but please be prepared to keep it to yourself once people have told you multiple times that you are going about it the wrong way.

You have slipped into a Chicken Little scenario: running around telling everyone who has ears that the sky is falling and the end of the world is night.

Well, guess what? Most of the remaining players of the game disagree with you. Many of us were skeptical about Crimewatch: it has turned out to be a real shot in the arm for lowsec, and has led to some interesting development in hisec.

So my apologies to CCP Greyscale — I had honestly thought that you could do nothing right, and that Retribution was going to be a failure due to Crimewatch specifically. Instead we got Crimewatch 2.0 + Transferable kill rights which has actually been awesome.

As for the Level One AI having a hard on for drones, Dinsdale, you have to realise that the catalyst for finally replacing the old AI with new AI (something players like me have been begging for since about 2009) was people making mountains of ISK by AFKing certain complexes in AFK sentry domis. The devs have looked at the results and decided that some tweaking is in order: that tweak is already scheduled for a patch coming Real Soon Now™.

In the meantime people like me who do PvE with "friends" are having no problems since we've found ways to manage the drone aggro (and yes, a Huginn with webs + TPs does make the NPCs quite angry).

So please forgive us if we don't immediately pack up all our things and leave for another game.

And you really need to relax and think things through for a few minutes. Once you can elucidate upon your major concerns, other people (or indeed CCP) can help address your concerns. Without any idea what it is that has you so worried, we can only stand by and watch the crazy guy ranting in morbid fascination.

Don't say it again, whatever it was.

Hi,

Removed some trolling and spam comments.

To the OP, don't bring ISD into this - we do not have the ability to that.

In what way are they dwindling right now?


Nah. They're pretty much all broken, and highsec being broken is a common source of many of those problems.