Crime & Punishment

A Guide on Scamming Red Frog Freight.

Due To Red Frog refusing my Initial extortion demand, I.E. Payment for Non-Publication of this Guide, I am now forced to release to the public Full Instructions on How to make Between 2 and 20 B Isk. You will soon Understand why this is not in any way Under-Estimated.

http://red-frog.org/annual-report-2011.php To get an idea how large this operation is.

Requirements:

2 Accounts - 1 For managing Corp Contracts, 1 for Hauling (Freighter 860k M3 min) And Will Join red Frog and instantly given access to Corp Contracts.

If you Currently only have 1 account, you can get a second account setup within minutes for the price of a plex. The Contract manager account can be as new as you want, The Hauler Acc should have a convincing History. But preferable not TEST, Evoke or Goons or other known freighter Gankers.

No Combat is involved in any way, This is purely a "White Collar Scam"


How It Works:

Red Frog Freight Is a large and well known Hauling company, Pilots of every type Create Contracts to the corp to have their Wares Moved from between 1 place and Another. They Only use Freighters.

Due to the Risk of Freighter Ganks, Red Frog Pilots are not allowed to take contracts with more than 1B in Collateral And Customers are not allowed to Set Contracts for more than 1B Isk Collateral.

This is where it gets interesting.

I Don't know if it is Laziness, Incompetence or just Calculated Risk, But People Constantly Put Cargo in the contract worth way more than the Collateral. On my first Day Some Incursion Nut put up a contract for 1b Collateral, but inside was a Machariel and 8B isk in Fittings.

Later that same Day, Some Idiot Put up 15 Contracts, im guessing for minerals to be moved of around 1b in value for each contract, Every single contract had 0 Collateral. Unfortunately at the time, i was not thinking of anything but how to chain together freighter trips and i missed that opportunity.

Every Day there are 6-7+ Contracts put up for Red Frog that have no collateral and countless numbers of contracts where the contents are worth way more than the Max 1B Collateral that they are ment to set.

The Best Way to get the most from this opportunity involves actually running the contracts like a typical employee, but all the while looking out for "The Big One" that will start your 24 Hour Timer.

Once you see that starting contract that is way over Collateral or none at all, you hold it, It has a timer of 24 Hours to complete. No one will notice a thing for at least the first 12 hours, more if you are lucky. During this time you need to run as many contracts as you can to find the "Gems" like 3B isk of WH Mats shoved into a 1B isk Collateral contract.


This is probably one of the easiest ways to gain Isk i have ever seen. And No doubt, i will try again ;)
If its done right, a 20B isk Haul is very possible.

This is less "scamming red frog" and more "scamming idiots that happen to use red frog service"

So your guide consists of pointing out what anyone with half a brain and any knowledge about the courier contract system could have worked out in about five seconds - exploit dumbasses who use insufficient collateral on their contracts.

Allow me to join Red Frog in pointing and laughing at you for expecting to get anything from that little gem.

Im stuck trying to figure out if the OP is serious in this post or just at 0/10 troll. In any case the only scam part of this was the OP attempting to blackmail Red Frog into paying him not to make a fail post in C&P....the rest of the post is common knowledge to anyone who knows anything about courier contracts....I suggest you go back to Jita and offer to double people's money....

As a prime example of how not to do it I hope, last thing we need is more idiots pointing out the obvious like its some kind of revalation.

Are you saying that I should not trust complete strangers with my stuff in this game?

Best guide ever! Can you direct me to a PDF version please? Or maybe a youtube video. Thank you.

we usually do, there's a lot of honest people in Red Frog, that see in the long term !

Not everyone is a thief like the OP.

Why would Red Frog care? I've seen this happen to dumb people and tired people who set up multiple contracts and mess up on one accidently before, and usually they just get a mail from Red Frog thanking them for the free isk and re-iterating the importance of setting proper collateral.

Wow..I came here expecting some badass conspiracy theory left with something not worth my time