Missions & Complexes

I must admit the first day after the patch I nearly lost my Rattlesnake, but I guess that's complacency for you. Now I take a TP and tech 1 lights to sacrifice to the new gods that are elite frigs. Having said that I haven't lost one in about a week so clearly things are getting better.

Basically if you've ever danced the hokey cokey you can do agent missions with Drones no problem, "...in out, in out" etc etc you get the drift!

But by all means stop doing level 4's just means I can over inflate the price I sell CNR's at .. Ker Ching!

The big issue I have is not with my ability to complete the missions. I have over 40 mil SP and good equipment. But if these missions are challenging for me, how is anyone in the 8-10 mil SP range flying with T1 meta gear supposed to survive?

I have said it before, I will say it again. lvl 4 missions are supposed to be the entry level content for battleships. battleships do not run level 3 missions, they can not track the smaller faster ships to do well in level 3 missions. entry level battleships are supposed to run level 4 missions.

Level 4 missions are not elite content for veterans, that is what level 5 missions and incursions are for. Just because many veteran players choose to solo easier content than to play the challenging content meant for more experienced players. This does not justify making the easier content more challenging. Doing so locks out the new players that content was designed for.

If level 4 missions are so difficult you need to fly a shiny expensive skill intensive ship to complete them, then what content are the entry level battleship pilots supposed to play? As I already said level 3 missions are not battleship content. A low skilled battleship can easily tank a level 3 missions. but without having really good gunnery or missile support skills they can not hit anything in a level 3.

This is not about making the game easy for veteran players, it is about breaking the game for newer players.

In another post I used a comparison to WOW to illustrate what CCP has done. I use WOW because that is where many of our new players are coming from. Say a max level character with full raid gear in WOW decided to farm content designed for level 60 characters, rather than play the end game content that was meant for their level. Now the developers changed that level 60 content to be challenging the the max level character with their urber equipment. In doing so they have now made that content unplayable for the level 60 characters and left a big hole in the new player progression. Would that be a wise move for the developers? No, It would be a very stupid game breaking move. Yet that is what CCP has done here.

Expanding the elite A.I. used for incursions and sleepers to all the NPC's in the game is a welcome change for many veteran players. It makes the game as a hole more challenging. But in doing so they have made far to much of the game inaccessible to newer players. History has shown that when an MMO becomes inaccessible to new players it begins the death march for that game. It declines and population drops until it is a pale shadow of what it was. Even WOW is but a pale shadow of what it was at its peak. EVE has far to much potential to make such a stupid mistake.

Here's the answer, BATTLECRUISER, fit it with as many heavy missiles launchers as you can, carry some T-2 or Navy issue ammo and let them fly, takes a little time but you will kill those pesky frigs, I kill Caldari drifters, skulkers, and other warp scrambling frigs in cosmos missions and they are far more dangerous then a level 4 mission cause they come at you 4 to 7 at a time and spawn back very quickly. I see wrecked BC, cruisers and frigs....lost one yesterday cause cosmos missions are harder on you when you f up and don't pay ATTENTION.

Mhm.
Battlecruisers with HM Launchers. Bet you mean a gallente one!


So, what you are saying is:
"If you are posting here, be ready to be flamed/trolled. Oh, right, and yea, I agree with what you said."?

Everyone is free to play EVE as he likes, and get burned for it as he deserves.

I ran L3s one-handed after a month or so, and went doing L4s. In a Myrm. Both armor, and shield fit.
Then I went in a BS. And it was rough.
And I had fun.
And I blew up, while having fun. It was one of the best moments in EVE, having my first battleship blow up, really felt how this is a good game, for I knew where I messed up, and what I should have done differently, and the loss of that ship really-really set me back (not cannot affordably, but far too close to it nonetheless).

I don't want to deprive newer players of the same feeling, just because elite frigates are now more murderous.
People should DIEEE in the L4 if they make a mistake in fitting, calling the shots, maneuvering and the like, and not because the somewhat random AI suddenly kills all drones.

Then again, now learning how to handle the AI threat is just an extra part of the Game.

I did that.... a couple times :P First was a navy megathron with faction/ded modules, next 1-2 losses were me being stupid and alt tabbing or afk'n at the wrong time. I prolly lost 6-8 plex being silly.

yah me too. I started buying plex with irl money after a year and a half, and I've lost a few ships being stupid but it was never because I thought I shiny meant win--it was just dumb mistakes.

it's a better use of my time to spend a little bit of irl money vs grinding for a few bil.

asset-wise, I have more than I've ever bought plex for. so that's good.