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Hi-sec as we know it has to come to an end ASAP, and here´s why.
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No More Heroes
Boomer Humor
Snuffed Out
#141 - 2012-12-15 00:51:23 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Could you please tell how much trit, pyerite and zydrine and mega volume have been traded today?

I cannot. We dont deal in minerals in 0.0 and I think you know why. My point was: our thriving market supplies all of our needs and most of our allies as well, thousands of players living and making war because of the skill and dedication of our jump freighter corp. But I know you like to take your shots when you can so do your best! Smile


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John Nucleus
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#142 - 2012-12-15 01:39:22 UTC
Kiriska wrote:
Hi sec does need changing, but what it needs is a review and update of it's content and mechanics. This is just another hit it with a hammer idea that wasn't thought through very well and won't work as intended.

There is very little content to encourage trade between the empires all this would do with current hi sec is have people clustering up the good islands and deserting the bad ones. Breaking up hi sec could be a good idea if there was content added to make each section of hi sec have it's own unique flavors and rewards.


This ^

+1
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#143 - 2012-12-15 02:21:50 UTC
John Nucleus wrote:
Kiriska wrote:
Hi sec does need changing, but what it needs is a review and update of it's content and mechanics. This is just another hit it with a hammer idea that wasn't thought through very well and won't work as intended.

There is very little content to encourage trade between the empires all this would do with current hi sec is have people clustering up the good islands and deserting the bad ones. Breaking up hi sec could be a good idea if there was content added to make each section of hi sec have it's own unique flavors and rewards.


This ^

+1



if theyre going to review and revamp high sec then they need to do the same for the rest of the entire game

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Mistah Ewedynao
Ice Axe Psycho Killers
#144 - 2012-12-15 02:23:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Mistah Ewedynao
No More Heroes wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Could you please tell how much trit, pyerite and zydrine and mega volume have been traded today?

I cannot. We dont deal in minerals in 0.0 and I think you know why. My point was: our thriving market supplies all of our needs and most of our allies as well, thousands of players living and making war because of the skill and dedication of our jump freighter corp. But I know you like to take your shots when you can so do your best! Smile





You forgot your bot hordes.

Nerf Goons

Nuke em from orbit....it's the only way to be sure.
John Nucleus
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#145 - 2012-12-15 02:30:57 UTC  |  Edited by: John Nucleus
Phil Da Agony wrote:
Ok guise, lets seriously talk about it. What Hi-sec has brought to us?

Breeds and breeds of people who sits down, take their brains off and wait for the drones till they hear the DING from the microwave so they could pick up another 4 and now, theyre unable to pull the drones back into the bay twice per mission. People who sells the ships they build under production cost because the ore they mine "it´s free". People who has been in the game for years and doesnt know what the d-scan is, or how it works.

This aberration is against the hearth and soul of this game, promoting single-player-esque behaviour in a harmful and dangerous way. We, people, have failed has a community.

Hi-sec should stop being a big fat island, and become an archipelage, as easy as that. A handful of small islands interconnected by low-sec and null-sec systems.

Think about it for a second and you´ll realize it, its a full-of-win idea.

Decentralizated market, hauling as a dignified profession, manufacturing accesible and profitable for the newbros, no more blue powerblock seas, everyone gettin involved into everything, in a truly, new and exciting single shard universe, harsh and dangerous as it was meant to be.

I know everyone needs his place, and hi-sec-only fellas would still be able to do their thing if they want to, even they will get benefits from this, as the faction and corp standings will become even more important.


Honestly, I fail to see how it would change anything in a way that would make you more happy. All it would achieve is create small pockets of the things you don't like, it wouldn't magically change their nature, just their size. Things would settle after some time and life would continue like nothing had happened and the thing you complain about would not have changed at all.

I also get the impression that for you, ships blowing up other ships is the only meaningful multiplayer experience the game has to offer. That's fine, but this is a sandbox game not just a arena, there's much much more to it than that. And yes, in high-sec too.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#146 - 2012-12-15 02:42:33 UTC
Mistah Ewedynao wrote:
No More Heroes wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Could you please tell how much trit, pyerite and zydrine and mega volume have been traded today?

I cannot. We dont deal in minerals in 0.0 and I think you know why. My point was: our thriving market supplies all of our needs and most of our allies as well, thousands of players living and making war because of the skill and dedication of our jump freighter corp. But I know you like to take your shots when you can so do your best! Smile





You forgot your bot hordes.


The Goon-hate is strong with this one.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#147 - 2012-12-15 02:52:08 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Mistah Ewedynao wrote:
No More Heroes wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Could you please tell how much trit, pyerite and zydrine and mega volume have been traded today?

I cannot. We dont deal in minerals in 0.0 and I think you know why. My point was: our thriving market supplies all of our needs and most of our allies as well, thousands of players living and making war because of the skill and dedication of our jump freighter corp. But I know you like to take your shots when you can so do your best! Smile





You forgot your bot hordes.


The Goon-hate is strong with this one.

and yet not wrong

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Mirima Thurander
#148 - 2012-12-15 03:12:23 UTC
This suggestion has been around since there have been gates in eve.

Has it happened yet, no.

Will it happen? VERY UNLIKELY.

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.
Keno Skir
#149 - 2012-12-15 03:17:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Keno Skir
Phil Da Agony wrote:
Some Rando wrote:
Phil Da Agony wrote:
This aberration is against the hearth and soul of this game, promoting single-player-esque autism in a harmful and dangerous way. We, people, have failed has a community.

I endorse this butchering of the English language and its colloquialisms.



Oh sorry Ive used an extra H in heart, anyway english is not my main language, Ive other 4 at your disposal in case you feel you cant stand my terrible english level


Haha, best reply ever. Served.

Any bets the person critiquing the English skills is an English or American who speaks one language badly?

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Keno Skir
#150 - 2012-12-15 03:21:08 UTC
Mistah Ewedynao wrote:
No More Heroes wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Could you please tell how much trit, pyerite and zydrine and mega volume have been traded today?

I cannot. We dont deal in minerals in 0.0 and I think you know why. My point was: our thriving market supplies all of our needs and most of our allies as well, thousands of players living and making war because of the skill and dedication of our jump freighter corp. But I know you like to take your shots when you can so do your best! Smile





You forgot your bot hordes.


Fair point, the achievements of any gaming group are nil if they got there by cheating.

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250,000 Bonus SP when you start an Alpha Clone HERE <---
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#151 - 2012-12-15 04:10:42 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Mistah Ewedynao wrote:
No More Heroes wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Could you please tell how much trit, pyerite and zydrine and mega volume have been traded today?

I cannot. We dont deal in minerals in 0.0 and I think you know why. My point was: our thriving market supplies all of our needs and most of our allies as well, thousands of players living and making war because of the skill and dedication of our jump freighter corp. But I know you like to take your shots when you can so do your best! Smile





You forgot your bot hordes.


The Goon-hate is strong with this one.

and yet not wrong


Evidence?

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#152 - 2012-12-15 04:30:15 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:

Evidence?


They have none they just want to howl about us.

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Rensari
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#153 - 2012-12-15 05:21:16 UTC
This is a terrible idea.

It will cause lots of low sec gate camp ganking.

Then those who don't want to travel to other high sec islands will just stay in high sec their whole lives anyway.
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#154 - 2012-12-15 05:24:40 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:

Evidence?


They have none they just want to howl about us.

the ever maligned poor poor goons lol

so wronged. Keep pretending and wringing your hands. Maybe youll get other noobs to believe you like this guy

Remiel Pollard wrote:


Evidence?

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#155 - 2012-12-15 06:00:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:

Evidence?


They have none they just want to howl about us.

the ever maligned poor poor goons lol

so wronged. Keep pretending and wringing your hands. Maybe youll get other noobs to believe you like this guy

Remiel Pollard wrote:


Evidence?


I'd believe you if you had evidence. I may be a "noob", but I'm not so naive as to just take your word, or their word, of anything without evidence. What reason have you given me to trust you?

From what I can gather so far, there are a lot of stories about Goonswarm Federation that come with no corroborating evidence, and considering the size of the alliance it's just starting to sound like Goon-hate spawned of jealousy because you got your application rejected or some such.

I got recruited about five days ago. Still waiting for the application to process. I left a good (but not as good) corp as a measure of good faith, and also because I wanted a few days to operate low-key to get some standings up in order to establish a high-sec JC. If I get to go to VFK, then great. If I don't, it still won't give me any reason the hate the Goons the way so many people do.

In fact, even if they came out of nowhere and blew me up all of a sudden, I still don't think I could hate them. They're playing the same game as me, and I'll get a new ship, and at the end of the day, it's still just a game.

I'm looking forward to joining Goonswarm - I've studied their history with BoB and MC etc, and I've read and studied much of The Mittani's literature, including a run down of Sun Tzu's art of war and how it applies to New Eden, and they're much cleverer than people give them credit for. In fact, I gather sometimes that they want people to believe the crazy stories about them. Propaganda is a powerful tool. So I'll say no more on the matter.

Bottom line is, until you can provide some evidence, then I have no reason to take your word for anything you claim.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#156 - 2012-12-15 06:06:39 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:

Evidence?


They have none they just want to howl about us.


So much this.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#157 - 2012-12-15 06:35:09 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Evidence?

They have none they just want to howl about us.

So much this.

Who doesn't love howling about us...

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#158 - 2012-12-15 06:38:26 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Evidence?

They have none they just want to howl about us.

So much this.

Who doesn't love howling about us...


The howling got me to get on this game and somewhere else. The amount of "facts" people pull out of thier asses about you is ridiculous.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#159 - 2012-12-15 07:58:32 UTC
No More Heroes wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Could you please tell how much trit, pyerite and zydrine and mega volume have been traded today?

I cannot. We dont deal in minerals in 0.0 and I think you know why. My point was: our thriving market supplies all of our needs and most of our allies as well, thousands of players living and making war because of the skill and dedication of our jump freighter corp. But I know you like to take your shots when you can so do your best! Smile



Well, that was not exactly "taking my shots" but curiosity about your trading hub.
Unlike most "hi seccers" I never have issues moving to WHs / low sec and 0.0 to do business, if the hub is worth playing with I could slip an alt in there or something Pirate

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#160 - 2012-12-15 08:13:35 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Who doesn't love howling about us...

The howling got me to get on this game and somewhere else. The amount of "facts" people pull out of thier asses about you is ridiculous.

The thread that entices newbies to join has a selection of delectable tears on it.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?