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Cigar smokers of EvE?

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Amitious Turkey
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Warriors of the Blood God
#21 - 2012-12-14 16:28:03 UTC
I've smoked a few cigars (mostly light, not the dark noxious variety), but I'm a pipe smoker. I love the aroma. I've got a cherry blend, a blackberry, and this delectable honey blend. I will not touch cigarettes, I choke if someone's smoking one nearby.

I don't smoke more than once a month though.

I like to lick things.

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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#22 - 2012-12-14 20:02:51 UTC
Borascus wrote:
[...] flavour selection offered great choices but repetition leads to boredom in that respect. [...] the Titan-T I'm using doesn't have the button. It's a draw mechanism that powers on the atomizer when air is passing along the battery [...] after I drained the battery I ran out and chose to buy a 10 pack, nearly puked from the bitter aftertaste and combination of other chemicals.

I've phased out of pure tobacco-like flavours a while ago, now I'm using mostly fruity and minty flavours, but I usually mix my own liquids out of at least three flavours plus some additives.
For instance, my mainstay ingredient selections include Dekang "Cool" (minty, but not too strongly so, they have other minty flavours which I like less), Heaven Gifts "Strawberry", "Green Tea" and "Red Bull", and as additive, almost always Flavour Art "Vape Wizzard".

I prefer the push-button type of battery for three reasons:
- it's more resistant to humidity (I've used in the rain, I've used it in the pool and while taking a bath, no problems whatsoever)
- it's a lot harder to accidentally trigger it (a stiffer breeze, or a room fan, or even moving it too fast through the air could occasionally trigger some of those "draw to turn on" models)
- you can "pre-burn" the liquid for a split second before you actually draw (more throat hit) and you can turn it off a second before you finish drawing (less residue left, more efficient too)

As far as intolerance of "standard" cigarettes... I think it was about 2 months from the moment I've switched until I started no longer liking the smell of regular cigarettes being smoked nearby, and after about 4 months the smell of somebody smoking outdoors in a distance became unpleasant. Now I'm more sensitive to nearby faint regular cigarette smoke than most non-smokers.
Borascus
#23 - 2012-12-14 22:50:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Borascus
Akita T wrote:
Borascus wrote:
[...] flavour selection offered great choices but repetition leads to boredom in that respect. [...] the Titan-T I'm using doesn't have the button. It's a draw mechanism that powers on the atomizer when air is passing along the battery [...] after I drained the battery I ran out and chose to buy a 10 pack, nearly puked from the bitter aftertaste and combination of other chemicals.

I've phased out of pure tobacco-like flavours a while ago, now I'm using mostly fruity and minty flavours, but I usually mix my own liquids out of at least three flavours plus some additives.
For instance, my mainstay ingredient selections include Dekang "Cool" (minty, but not too strongly so, they have other minty flavours which I like less), Heaven Gifts "Strawberry", "Green Tea" and "Red Bull", and as additive, almost always Flavour Art "Vape Wizzard".

I prefer the push-button type of battery for three reasons:
- it's more resistant to humidity (I've used in the rain, I've used it in the pool and while taking a bath, no problems whatsoever)
- it's a lot harder to accidentally trigger it (a stiffer breeze, or a room fan, or even moving it too fast through the air could occasionally trigger some of those "draw to turn on" models)
- you can "pre-burn" the liquid for a split second before you actually draw (more throat hit) and you can turn it off a second before you finish drawing (less residue left, more efficient too)

As far as intolerance of "standard" cigarettes... I think it was about 2 months from the moment I've switched until I started no longer liking the smell of regular cigarettes being smoked nearby, and after about 4 months the smell of somebody smoking outdoors in a distance became unpleasant. Now I'm more sensitive to nearby faint regular cigarette smoke than most non-smokers.



Awesome gz, I can see the vape method becoming commonplace, no toxins except the nicotine!


I was tempted by the Red Bull flavour, but I really want to avoid the melon flavour. I don't know anything about the Favour Art "Vape Wizard" business though. Gonna go check


EDIT: Orly Big smile? looks like a good way to avoid that op coffee taste first thing in the morning.
Niyon Miromme
#24 - 2012-12-16 10:25:33 UTC
Amitious Turkey wrote:
I've smoked a few cigars (mostly light, not the dark noxious variety), but I'm a pipe smoker. I love the aroma. I've got a cherry blend, a blackberry, and this delectable honey blend. I will not touch cigarettes, I choke if someone's smoking one nearby.

I don't smoke more than once a month though.


Hey i was considering trying pipe but not sure if it was like cigarrettes because i hate those but i like cigars so i just presumed it a was like cigs but in another form, is that true?

[u]Don't hate me for beeing scottish, hate yourself for not beeing scottish[/u]

Kanta Kansene
Agentes in rebus
#25 - 2012-12-16 11:53:09 UTC
Niyon Miromme wrote:
Amitious Turkey wrote:
I've smoked a few cigars (mostly light, not the dark noxious variety), but I'm a pipe smoker. I love the aroma. I've got a cherry blend, a blackberry, and this delectable honey blend. I will not touch cigarettes, I choke if someone's smoking one nearby.

I don't smoke more than once a month though.


Hey i was considering trying pipe but not sure if it was like cigarrettes because i hate those but i like cigars so i just presumed it a was like cigs but in another form, is that true?


Pipe is very different from cigarettes or cigars, and it's definitely something you will either like or not like pretty quickly, although it seems the liking for it can be acquired. Firstly, pipe smoke is quite hot compared to cigarette smoke. There is also a lot of flavor in pipe tobacco, which may be a good or bad thing if you are used to cigar tobacco, which isn't particularly flavorful (beyond the normal aromatics of dried tobacco). A comparison could be (for me) cigar tobacco - newly mown grass pipe tobacco - potpourri
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#26 - 2012-12-16 20:25:15 UTC
Borascus wrote:
Awesome gz, I can see the vape method becoming commonplace, no toxins except the nicotine!


'E-cigs' are actually full of dioxins from heat coming into contact with the plastic.

Just quit nicotine altogether. If i can do it after 15 years of very heavy smoking anyone can.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#27 - 2012-12-16 22:08:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Akita T
Bane Necran wrote:
'E-cigs' are actually full of dioxins from heat coming into contact with the plastic..

Except that wicks are not plastic, but silica rope, and the poly filling should not ever heat up anywhere near dioxin-releasing levels if you keep the cartridge at least quarter-full at all times.
Plus, if it ever gets so low that that MIGHT be the case, the "burnt" taste (coming from the lack of enough liquid to keep vaporization temperatures steady to "just enough") will make you want to refill or even replace the cartomizer ASAP anyway, before you actually manage to inhale any remotely dangerous levels of anything you were not expecting in the first place.
Tank systems don't even have that poly filling, just a silica rope wick and a silica rope dripper, no plastic of any kind anywhere near the coils.

Also, just for fun, see barbecue dioxin levels : http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3106039.stm

Bane Necran wrote:
Just quit nicotine altogether. If i can do it after 15 years of very heavy smoking anyone can.

You're either giving everybody else a lot more, or yourself a lot less credit than you deserve for managing that.
It's nowhere near that simple. Most former smokers who quit "cold turkey" relapse eventually. Eventually being the key word.

...

P.S.
There's a LOT of scaremongering regarding e-cigs, and at least part of it is almost surely financially motivated.
When you spend a fifth or even a tenth of what you would normally spend on cigarettes AND the vast majority of cigarette-smoking-related health issues simply vanish AND you no longer bother anybody else in your vicinity, there's no question of which of the two nicotine delivery systems is the vastly superior one.
SOME health claims are valid, but most are either wildly exaggerated or even outright false. And out of the valid ones, the most significant ones are occasional manufacturing-related corner-cutting resulting in a substandard and potentially dangerous product from that particular company, something that can be fixed and checked for in multiple ways.
Of course quitting altogether is the healthier choice, but the health gap between smoking regular cigarettes and e-cigs is HUGE, whereas the one between not smoking anything and e-cigs is reasonably small.

P.P.S.
There's actually quite a bit of interest in the study of nicotine for medicinal purposes, with potential uses in cardiovascular applications, asthma treatment (go figure, heh), some pregnancy complications, OCD, depression, Parkinson's and even Alzheimers. Of course, the dosage and rate of delivery is critical, and still being investigated.
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