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starbelt stacy
State War Academy
Caldari State
#41 - 2012-12-13 18:39:43 UTC  |  Edited by: starbelt stacy
Kery Nysell wrote:
Gaming God eh ?

Ok, first off, PRE-patch, using medium slow drones for Frigate-killing was a very, very bad idea ...

Post-patch, the NPC frigates will aggro your drones, always, ever. That's WORKING AS INTENDED.

Solution, on a CNR ?

3 Rigor Rigs and Precision cruise missiles to smash the frigs ... one volley for the non-elite, up to three for the elites ... or ignore the frigs and concentrate on the heavy hitters ... after all, those 5-10 damage per frig should'nt kill your CNR ...

Now, what you CAN use your drones for, AFTER you've cleaned those pesky gnats that are Frigates, is to sic your Medium drones on the Cruisers while you deal with the Battlecruisers/Battleships with your Fury cruises ...

If your skills (ingame and IRL) aren't up to that, feel free to contract me your CNR and leave the game ...




sure .. im gonna gimp my almost fail tank on my CNR even further by taking out my shield recharge and cap rigs to put on rigor rigs, then im gonna gimp myROF even further by taking out my caldari cruise launchers and switch to crap t2 launchers. Shocked

i have a better solution .. they should up the rewards for level 4 missions since there is more risk i know you peeps love the risk v reward slogan so much only when it suits you.

no the frigs arent the ones that wouild pop my ~CNR it is the rest of the blobs in the mission area that do that the frigs just scram and web you so you cant warp out and take more damage.

CNR has got a almost fail tank as it is, im not gonna gimp it any further then i definately wouldnt be able to do missions without having to warp out every 5 mins ....

and dont say get people to join me on level 4's cos the payouts are garbage as it is on most of them as it is already then it definately wouldnt be worth doing.


send me 5 bil ill send you my stuff before my subs run out.
Kery Nysell
#42 - 2012-12-13 19:00:41 UTC
starbelt stacy wrote:
Kery Nysell wrote:
Gaming God eh ?

Ok, first off, PRE-patch, using medium slow drones for Frigate-killing was a very, very bad idea ...

Post-patch, the NPC frigates will aggro your drones, always, ever. That's WORKING AS INTENDED.

Solution, on a CNR ?

3 Rigor Rigs and Precision cruise missiles to smash the frigs ... one volley for the non-elite, up to three for the elites ... or ignore the frigs and concentrate on the heavy hitters ... after all, those 5-10 damage per frig should'nt kill your CNR ...

Now, what you CAN use your drones for, AFTER you've cleaned those pesky gnats that are Frigates, is to sic your Medium drones on the Cruisers while you deal with the Battlecruisers/Battleships with your Fury cruises ...

If your skills (ingame and IRL) aren't up to that, feel free to contract me your CNR and leave the game ...




sure .. im gonna gimp my almost fail tank on my CNR even further by taking out my shield recharge and cap rigs to put on rigor rigs, then im gonna gimp myROF even further by taking out my caldari cruise launchers and switch to crap t2 launchers. Shocked

i have a better solution .. they should up the rewards for level 4 missions since there is more risk i know you peeps love the risk v reward slogan so much only when it suits you.

no the frigs arent the ones that wouild pop my ~CNR it is the rest of the blobs in the mission area that do that the frigs just scram and web you so you cant warp out and take more damage.

CNR has got a almost fail tank as it is, im not gonna gimp it any further then i definately wouldnt be able to do missions without having to warp out every 5 mins ....

and dont say get people to join me on level 4's cos the payouts are garbage as it is on most of them as it is already then it definately wouldnt be worth doing.


send me 5 bil ill send you my stuff before my subs run out.


You're trolling, right ?

I never had any tank problem with my CNR, except on the Angel Extravaganza bonus pocket ...

Resistances >>> shield boost amount.

Pulsing an XL-Booster when your shield gets down to 33% and then stopping when it's back up to 70%ish is the way to go, perfectly manageable cap-wise, and tanks for a long, long time.

Of course you need T2 tanking mods, and WHEN you have enough LPs, upgrade them to Caldari Navy mods, but the T2 Launchers with Precision (for small things) and Fury (for big things) do WONDERS for reducing the incoming DPS ...

Heck, in some missions I don't even need my XL-Booster !

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Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#43 - 2012-12-13 19:00:49 UTC
Light drones are FAR more effective at killing NPC frigs than mediums when they close and orbiting. I will always have a set of warriors and hobs. Warriors even work better on those crazy spider drones than the hobs. Drones have tracking speed issues, just like big guns on small targets. And it doesn't hurt to fit a web, it will make the light drones work even better.
DOARotadyne
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
#44 - 2012-12-13 20:53:25 UTC
Cage Man wrote:
Light drones are FAR more effective at killing NPC frigs than mediums when they close and orbiting. I will always have a set of warriors and hobs. Warriors even work better on those crazy spider drones than the hobs. Drones have tracking speed issues, just like big guns on small targets. And it doesn't hurt to fit a web, it will make the light drones work even better.


wow, took a long time for someone to get it right. use light drones on frigs, obviously. don't web them though as your orbit speed with the light drones on spider drones actually gimp the hits. instead let them follow the spider drones to lessen the transversal and they will hit better.you shouldnt need mediums on a raven. stock up on a bunch light drones.
Jackson Steely
Doomheim
#45 - 2012-12-13 22:17:53 UTC
starbelt stacy wrote:
Kery Nysell wrote:
Gaming God eh ?

Ok, first off, PRE-patch, using medium slow drones for Frigate-killing was a very, very bad idea ...

Post-patch, the NPC frigates will aggro your drones, always, ever. That's WORKING AS INTENDED.

Solution, on a CNR ?

3 Rigor Rigs and Precision cruise missiles to smash the frigs ... one volley for the non-elite, up to three for the elites ... or ignore the frigs and concentrate on the heavy hitters ... after all, those 5-10 damage per frig should'nt kill your CNR ...

Now, what you CAN use your drones for, AFTER you've cleaned those pesky gnats that are Frigates, is to sic your Medium drones on the Cruisers while you deal with the Battlecruisers/Battleships with your Fury cruises ...

If your skills (ingame and IRL) aren't up to that, feel free to contract me your CNR and leave the game ...




sure .. im gonna gimp my almost fail tank on my CNR even further by taking out my shield recharge and cap rigs to put on rigor rigs, then im gonna gimp myROF even further by taking out my caldari cruise launchers and switch to crap t2 launchers. Shocked

i have a better solution .. they should up the rewards for level 4 missions since there is more risk i know you peeps love the risk v reward slogan so much only when it suits you.

no the frigs arent the ones that wouild pop my ~CNR it is the rest of the blobs in the mission area that do that the frigs just scram and web you so you cant warp out and take more damage.

CNR has got a almost fail tank as it is, im not gonna gimp it any further then i definately wouldnt be able to do missions without having to warp out every 5 mins ....

and dont say get people to join me on level 4's cos the payouts are garbage as it is on most of them as it is already then it definately wouldnt be worth doing.


send me 5 bil ill send you my stuff before my subs run out.


Shield recharge rigs eh? You aren't in your draek anymore pup

Lose the silly cap rigs while you're at it and start using a cap booster

You aren't going to be getting better rewards from missions either, that is reserved for people that can actually adjust to the changes and get more LP for the same mission pre Retribution because of people like you that can't stop sucking and just continue to whine.

FYI I'm getting about 500 more LP from Assault post Retribution, first time I've that big of a bump up from a single mission. So I guess I'll close in saying thanks!
Kery Nysell
#46 - 2012-12-13 22:22:18 UTC
And I'm not even certain that a Cap Booster is needed ... never used one, really ...

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Jackson Steely
Doomheim
#47 - 2012-12-13 22:31:16 UTC
Agreed, a part from a couple of missions it isn't needed. I leave it on there mostly out of laziness.
starbelt stacy
State War Academy
Caldari State
#48 - 2012-12-13 22:47:15 UTC
Jackson Steely wrote:

Shield recharge rigs eh? You aren't in your draek anymore pup

Lose the silly cap rigs while you're at it and start using a cap booster

You aren't going to be getting better rewards from missions either, that is reserved for people that can actually adjust to the changes and get more LP for the same mission pre Retribution because of people like you that can't stop sucking and just continue to whine.

FYI I'm getting about 500 more LP from Assault post Retribution, first time I've that big of a bump up from a single mission. So I guess I'll close in saying thanks!



CNR is active tank ..... Roll

use a cap booster which is a mid slot, therefore gimping tank even more... Roll

have you even used a CNR for level 4's lately? .. cos it barely tanks as it is.
Kery Nysell
#49 - 2012-12-13 23:05:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Kery Nysell
starbelt stacy wrote:
Jackson Steely wrote:

Shield recharge rigs eh? You aren't in your draek anymore pup

Lose the silly cap rigs while you're at it and start using a cap booster

You aren't going to be getting better rewards from missions either, that is reserved for people that can actually adjust to the changes and get more LP for the same mission pre Retribution because of people like you that can't stop sucking and just continue to whine.

FYI I'm getting about 500 more LP from Assault post Retribution, first time I've that big of a bump up from a single mission. So I guess I'll close in saying thanks!



CNR is active tank ..... Roll

use a cap booster which is a mid slot, therefore gimping tank even more... Roll

have you even used a CNR for level 4's lately? .. cos it barely tanks as it is.


Yes, it's active. Meaning it uses a Shield Booster, and probably a Shield Boost Amplifier.

That DOESN'T mean that the Shield Booster MUST be "always on" !!

6 med slots = XL-Booster II, Shield Boost Amp, 2 Active Hardeners against the damage types of the 'rats, 2 Passive Hardeners against the damage types of the 'rats, and a Damage Control in low ... with that kind of fitting, against EM (the big hole of the ship), I'm up to 70%+ resistance, and against Therm/Kin, above 80% ... only need a minute of boosting when my shield goes down to 35% (gets back up to 75~80%), and I can do every mission there is.

Of course, I have shield skills at 5 ... the CNR *IS NOT* a noob-friendly ship.

And yes, Rigors, 3 BCUs, and a Co-Pro to fit everything + a T2 drone link augmentor.

Speaking of missions, I did a "The Assault" vs Guristas this afternoon, in my CNR, T2 fitted, without problems ... also did a World Collides Serpentis vs Guristas and an Angel Extravaganza (minus the bonus pocket, forgot my tag), just by equiping the right hardeners for the 'rats that I fought.


It's not *that* hard.

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Zaq Phelps
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#50 - 2012-12-14 01:59:27 UTC
starbelt stacy wrote:
Jackson Steely wrote:

Shield recharge rigs eh? You aren't in your draek anymore pup

Lose the silly cap rigs while you're at it and start using a cap booster

You aren't going to be getting better rewards from missions either, that is reserved for people that can actually adjust to the changes and get more LP for the same mission pre Retribution because of people like you that can't stop sucking and just continue to whine.

FYI I'm getting about 500 more LP from Assault post Retribution, first time I've that big of a bump up from a single mission. So I guess I'll close in saying thanks!



CNR is active tank ..... Roll

use a cap booster which is a mid slot, therefore gimping tank even more... Roll

have you even used a CNR for level 4's lately? .. cos it barely tanks as it is.


4/10 for trolling. CNR is a dps tank with a pulsed shield booster and a high buffer for backup. The faster you kill the bad guys, the more money you make and the less damage you have to tank.
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#51 - 2012-12-14 02:28:00 UTC
now for a lesson in rhythm drone management

silence the informant

room 1: 10x sentries assisting nightmare

pwn.
http://i.imgur.com/5Zfw2.jpg

room 2: dammit, the light drones killed everything before I could get a screenshot.

4 light drone losses.
http://i.imgur.com/1S0tK.jpg

room 3: sentries.

no losses.
http://i.imgur.com/8BkmV.jpg

room 4:


...wait, that was it?

Help, I can't download EVE

President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub

PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#52 - 2012-12-14 03:14:32 UTC
starbelt stacy wrote:
CNR is active tank ..... Roll

use a cap booster which is a mid slot, therefore gimping tank even more... Roll

have you even used a CNR for level 4's lately? .. cos it barely tanks as it is.


Oh do post your whole fit. This should be good.

CNRs need XL boosters (or deadspace) plus rigors to shine. You've effectively gimped the ship.
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#53 - 2012-12-14 03:19:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Rain6637
keep using CNRs for missions. and spend billions keeping it alive.

I've been thinking I should start looting CNR wrecks that die in lvl 4's.

there's something CCP tries to do, which is ship balancing. it would be unfair
if the CNR was tanky AND could chuck cruises from so far away.

if you're looking for the tanky CNR, just get a Golem.



//I'm fitting a probe launcher and I'm going to loot mission wrecks.

first battleship I warp to, what do I find?
CNR killing frigs with cruises.
I'm going to follow them. DON'T DIE

Help, I can't download EVE

President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub

PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Kiandoshia
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2012-12-14 05:02:02 UTC
Fit TPs to your ship. It makes NPCs love you.
Gaming God
Gaming God Corporation
#55 - 2012-12-14 11:44:24 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
keep using CNRs for missions. and spend billions keeping it alive.

I've been thinking I should start looting CNR wrecks that die in lvl 4's.

there's something CCP tries to do, which is ship balancing. it would be unfair
if the CNR was tanky AND could chuck cruises from so far away.

if you're looking for the tanky CNR, just get a Golem.



//I'm fitting a probe launcher and I'm going to loot mission wrecks.

first battleship I warp to, what do I find?
CNR killing frigs with cruises.
I'm going to follow them. DON'T DIE


Gollum is the goal but dad will take a while training
Kery Nysell
#56 - 2012-12-14 11:53:46 UTC
Or you could try the Navy Scorpion ... +5% resistances per Cal BS level, 8 mid slots ...

I just transfered my CNR tank on mine, added an Invuln field and an AB ... works like a charm.

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Anneliese Pollard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2012-12-14 12:22:56 UTC
Kery Nysell wrote:
Or you could try the Navy Scorpion ... +5% resistances per Cal BS level, 8 mid slots ...

I just transfered my CNR tank on mine, added an Invuln field and an AB ... works like a charm.


I like a Rattlesnake for the increased resists, but the mid slots are nothing to laugh at.
Bruv Sertan
Doomheim
#58 - 2012-12-14 13:18:21 UTC
starbelt stacy wrote:
Gaming God wrote:
Al 10 drones of mine are kilt bij de wing man and spider drones and my missiles cant hurt them i just can not do the mission anymore To manny wing mans and drones .

Is there any one that can give me some advice how to run the mission ?



you should just let the mission expire, go buy plex and move to 0.0 like the staff @ CCP want you to do. Shocked

this was the aim all the time from the drone AI update ... to stop people like yourself and me from doing what you like to do in EvE... amazing isnt it? Roll


you have to become a E-Peen stroker and move to 0.0 to take part in blob wars and have fun trying to make any decent isk there where you will be blobbed / griefed as soon as you try and rat or make some iskies. Straight

the games fooked for mission runners... this is how ccp want it.... did i mention you could buy PLEX? Roll


talk with your wallet man, its the only way CCP will stop destroying legit mission runners like yourself.

p.s. for the people telling him to fit this and that... dont be so fecking daft man he will gimp his tank to a point it isnt even worthwhile attempting most level 4's, i fly CNR myself and missions are just Bullshoot now, and it doesnt even tank that well either.


This.
Remember when CCP wanted microtransactions? And players said f*******?
Too bad you guys thought they will give up, they're back, trying to reduce your income, so that you buy the almighty plex's to be able to buy an advanced ship or something. That would'nt be a problem on a free to play game but for this one I pay a subscription.....
Why CCP doesn't make ecm effective against npc's, why not allow me to jam them back,all in the name of competitivity bragged with retribution.

Bottom line is, if you dont have enough time to grind like crazy for isk and you passion is missions or anomalikes you are screwed for the moment only if you dont want to reach deep into your pockets to buy some plex.
LordSpock
Doomheim
#59 - 2012-12-14 13:27:36 UTC
Bruv Sertan wrote:

This.
Remember when CCP wanted microtransactions? And players said f*******?
Too bad you guys thought they will give up, they're back, trying to reduce your income, so that you buy the almighty plex's to be able to buy an advanced ship or something. That would'nt be a problem on a free to play game but for this one I pay a subscription.....
Why CCP doesn't make ecm effective against npc's, why not allow me to jam them back,all in the name of competitivity bragged with retribution.

Bottom line is, if you dont have enough time to grind like crazy for isk and you passion is missions or anomalikes you are screwed for the moment only if you dont want to reach deep into your pockets to buy some plex.


And nobody ever walked on the moon as it was shot in a studio.

*LordSpock puts on tinfoil hat again*
Kery Nysell
#60 - 2012-12-14 14:00:01 UTC
Bruv Sertan wrote:
starbelt stacy wrote:
Gaming God wrote:
Al 10 drones of mine are kilt bij de wing man and spider drones and my missiles cant hurt them i just can not do the mission anymore To manny wing mans and drones .

Is there any one that can give me some advice how to run the mission ?



you should just let the mission expire, go buy plex and move to 0.0 like the staff @ CCP want you to do. Shocked

this was the aim all the time from the drone AI update ... to stop people like yourself and me from doing what you like to do in EvE... amazing isnt it? Roll


you have to become a E-Peen stroker and move to 0.0 to take part in blob wars and have fun trying to make any decent isk there where you will be blobbed / griefed as soon as you try and rat or make some iskies. Straight

the games fooked for mission runners... this is how ccp want it.... did i mention you could buy PLEX? Roll


talk with your wallet man, its the only way CCP will stop destroying legit mission runners like yourself.

p.s. for the people telling him to fit this and that... dont be so fecking daft man he will gimp his tank to a point it isnt even worthwhile attempting most level 4's, i fly CNR myself and missions are just Bullshoot now, and it doesnt even tank that well either.


This.
Remember when CCP wanted microtransactions? And players said f*******?
Too bad you guys thought they will give up, they're back, trying to reduce your income, so that you buy the almighty plex's to be able to buy an advanced ship or something. That would'nt be a problem on a free to play game but for this one I pay a subscription.....
Why CCP doesn't make ecm effective against npc's, why not allow me to jam them back,all in the name of competitivity bragged with retribution.

Bottom line is, if you dont have enough time to grind like crazy for isk and you passion is missions or anomalikes you are screwed for the moment only if you dont want to reach deep into your pockets to buy some plex.



As a matter of fact, my income from lvl 4 missions went up since I resubed ... it was worse three years ago, and now the missions are more fun to do for the same ISK and LP gains, so I'd say it's better now.

Oh and BTW, fail troll is fail.

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