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Bruno Mussolenth
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2012-12-12 08:10:16 UTC
I am sorry, "New Order", but I certainly believe that given the recent CONCORD changes regarding bounties and crime-hunting you are going to have a bad time.

The very same hostile behaviour you are having against some harmless miners, destroying their ships in Empire space, is going to bounce back to hit you. I am sure there are many capsuleers that are willing to sacrifice their vessels and their security status for a chunk of the bounty many of these miners will have put on you.

Those 10,000,000 ISK you are demanding from each miner may well go to a bounty placed on you. Definitely a better way to spend one's money.
M Lamia
All Web Investigations
#22 - 2012-12-12 10:15:35 UTC  |  Edited by: M Lamia
Bruno Mussolenth wrote:
I am sorry, "New Order", but I certainly believe that given the recent CONCORD changes regarding bounties and crime-hunting you are going to have a bad time.

The very same hostile behaviour you are having against some harmless miners, destroying their ships in Empire space, is going to bounce back to hit you. I am sure there are many capsuleers that are willing to sacrifice their vessels and their security status for a chunk of the bounty many of these miners will have put on you.

Those 10,000,000 ISK you are demanding from each miner may well go to a bounty placed on you. Definitely a better way to spend one's money.


The New Order and the saviour are perfectly aware of Concords recent policy changes, I suggest you re-read their press statement carefully, as you seem to misunderstand the policy.

Even if we were to assume that filthy none-compliant savages would put forth the isk and ~effort~ required to gank an Agent (which is akin to assuming pigs can fly), the payout for ganking a catalyst is going to be mere pennies. It doesn't matter how big a bounty the Agent has, you only get a fraction of what their vessel is worth.

The New Order are perfectly satisfied with these policy changes, as it aides the Code greatly (as a 20% payout for killing a mackinaw is a lot more than a 20% payout on a cheap throwaway catalyst!). Many believe that aiding the New Order is precisely why Concord made such sweeping changes to their policy so quickly to begin with!
Kainotomiu Ronuken
koahisquad
#23 - 2012-12-12 12:26:32 UTC
John Caligan wrote:
Highsec is a big place, my friend. And not all of it appreciates random people cutting into their profits. And if it gets bad enough, the powers that be might see fit to get involved.

We'll see where your Savior is, when that happens.

The New Order has heard threats like this before. Sadly for those who propagate them, the unsaved miners are generally too lazy and apathetic to do anything about our movement, and prefer to send endless outraged letters to Concord.

Needless to say, Concord doesn't seem to be particularly worried by these letters, especially considering the recent changes to bounty laws.
Harry Willie
Doomheim
#24 - 2012-12-12 22:34:16 UTC
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
John Caligan wrote:
Highsec is a big place, my friend. And not all of it appreciates random people cutting into their profits. And if it gets bad enough, the powers that be might see fit to get involved.

We'll see where your Savior is, when that happens.

The New Order has heard threats like this before. Sadly for those who propagate them, the unsaved miners are generally too lazy and apathetic to do anything about our movement, and prefer to send endless outraged letters to Concord.

Needless to say, Concord doesn't seem to be particularly worried by these letters, especially considering the recent changes to bounty laws.


Actually, the New New Order has already arrived in Kamio and has already starting mowing down the Knights. They don't get pay outs for dieing in a fire without a kill to go with it, so I'm thinking they will burn out soon when its too hard to kill an unarmed ship before getting blown up.

Kainotomiu Ronuken is James 315 is Currin ... a known scammer. In the end I believe this guy will be disappearing with his 27 or more billion isk he's scammed from his shareholders so far. I can't wait for the other shoe to drop.

The New New Order has started its cleaning of Kamio. Everyone is invited to attend. We've got about 22 corporations and organizations making their way there now. I don't think you will find great fights, but you will definitely find something to shoot. Gankers tend to flee when the other guy has guns.

Take care and Long Live the New New Order and out with the Old Newb Order. Let's get to the job of actually cleaning up highsec.
Lin Suizei
#25 - 2012-12-13 00:16:41 UTC
Harry Willie wrote:
[quote=Kainotomiu Ronuken]Actually, the New New Order has already arrived in Kamio and has already starting mowing down the Knights. They don't get pay outs for dieing in a fire without a kill to go with it, so I'm thinking they will burn out soon when its too hard to kill an unarmed ship before getting blown up.


You fundamentally mistake the nature of this war. As long as you believe that ISK and Kill-to-Death ratios are of any concern to the Knights of the New Order, you are at best wasting your time.

Lol I can't delete my forum sig.
Harry Willie
Doomheim
#26 - 2012-12-13 00:41:37 UTC
LOL ... ok.
Lin Suizei
#27 - 2012-12-13 01:12:05 UTC
Harry Willie wrote:
LOL ... ok.


Did you intend to contribute something meaningful to the discussion, or are you once again highlighting why resistance against the New Order has always failed? Do you intend to put action behind your words, or will we simply continue delivering antimatter-based enlightenment to the rebels as we see fit while you continue your idle threats?

You cannot stop the New Order. CONCORD and the Empires have already tried and failed on both counts, what makes you can do better? What are you going to do, kill ships that we intentionally invite CONCORD to attack?

Lol I can't delete my forum sig.
Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#28 - 2012-12-13 01:23:40 UTC
Lin Suizei wrote:
Harry Willie wrote:
LOL ... ok.


Did you intend to contribute something meaningful to the discussion, or are you once again highlighting why resistance against the New Order has always failed? Do you intend to put action behind your words, or will we simply continue delivering antimatter-based enlightenment to the rebels as we see fit while you continue your idle threats?

You cannot stop the New Order. CONCORD and the Empires have already tried and failed on both counts, what makes you can do better? What are you going to do, kill ships that we intentionally invite CONCORD to attack?


I believe the sentence you are looking for is, "CONCORD and the Empires have not bothered to involve themselves in our racketeering, and it does not appear likely that they will do so in the foreseeable future." If CONCORD or one of the Empires wanted you to go away, you would do so.
Lazarus Jaeol
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2012-12-13 04:16:06 UTC
Does an ant have a quarrel with a boot?

I believe you are mistaking your insignificance for some type of immunity, I pity you.
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#30 - 2012-12-13 19:02:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Rodj Blake
I don't know much about this New Order, but I do know that they'll eventually Regret claiming all of highsec as their dominion.

They need to find True Faith and then they will be Touched by the Hand of God, but they probably won't do that and then we'll find that they won't be Here to Stay. They certainly won't set anyone's World in Motion.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Alizabeth Vea
Doomheim
#31 - 2012-12-14 02:43:35 UTC
This 'new order' is so pants on head stupid I don't even know where to begin.

Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum.

"Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I

Virtue. Valor. Victory.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#32 - 2012-12-14 03:01:50 UTC
Alizabeth Vea wrote:
This 'new order' is so pants on head stupid I don't even know where to begin.


Calling it 'pants on head stupid' is always a good place to begin.

Katrina Oniseki
Misha M'Liena
Rui Freelance Mining
#33 - 2012-12-14 03:05:49 UTC
*Writes on calendar* I am actually agreeing with Katrina Oniseki. Will wonders never cease.

Not as innocent as she appears.™  
Alizabeth Vea
Doomheim
#34 - 2012-12-14 03:17:20 UTC
Oniseki agreeing with me? Cripes.

Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum.

"Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I

Virtue. Valor. Victory.
M Lamia
All Web Investigations
#35 - 2012-12-14 10:23:34 UTC
Harry Willie wrote:
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
John Caligan wrote:
Highsec is a big place, my friend. And not all of it appreciates random people cutting into their profits. And if it gets bad enough, the powers that be might see fit to get involved.

We'll see where your Savior is, when that happens.

The New Order has heard threats like this before. Sadly for those who propagate them, the unsaved miners are generally too lazy and apathetic to do anything about our movement, and prefer to send endless outraged letters to Concord.

Needless to say, Concord doesn't seem to be particularly worried by these letters, especially considering the recent changes to bounty laws.


Actually, the New New Order has already arrived in Kamio and has already starting mowing down the Knights. They don't get pay outs for dieing in a fire without a kill to go with it, so I'm thinking they will burn out soon when its too hard to kill an unarmed ship before getting blown up.

Kainotomiu Ronuken is James 315 is Currin ... a known scammer. In the end I believe this guy will be disappearing with his 27 or more billion isk he's scammed from his shareholders so far. I can't wait for the other shoe to drop.

The New New Order has started its cleaning of Kamio. Everyone is invited to attend. We've got about 22 corporations and organizations making their way there now. I don't think you will find great fights, but you will definitely find something to shoot. Gankers tend to flee when the other guy has guns.

Take care and Long Live the New New Order and out with the Old Newb Order. Let's get to the job of actually cleaning up highsec.


Firstly, funds willingly donated to the New Order are not "scammed" isk. They were donations freely given. No one was asked to give isk in return for x, people donated because they support the Code.

Secondly, for all your bluster and threats, I've yet to see your pathetic rebel group actually do anything other than spam words at us.
Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#36 - 2012-12-14 10:33:53 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:
I don't know much about this New Order, but I do know that they'll eventually Regret claiming all of highsec as their dominion.

They need to find True Faith and then they will be Touched by the Hand of God, but they probably won't do that and then we'll find that they won't be Here to Stay. They certainly won't set anyone's World in Motion.


Personally I think they lack the Substance to do so, they're more likely to go to the Republic where I'm sure they'll have a Fine Time in Molden Heath along with the other pirates who attack miners. Most likely they'll move after the weekend and set diplomacy with the local scum.

It'll be a Blue Monday.

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.
Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#37 - 2012-12-16 00:02:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Galaxy Pig
Greetings Intergalactic Summit, I am an Agent, as well as one of the Knights of the New Order. It would seem that several of you have misconceptions concerning the New Order and the means by which we exert power over Highsec. I can provide links to CONCORD-verified kill information on the law-enforcement engagements I have personally been involved with upon request. Last time I checked we were over the 40 billion ISK mark in terms of losses incurred due to violations of the code. The vast majority of the rebel ships lost were T2 mining vessels and Orcas (along with the pilots' capsules). Again, we can provide specific kill-information upon request, but make no mistake, the New Order is the one legitimate authority in highsec, and has the power to enforce the laws of New Order territory. Though, fear not, we are a benign organization full of people working everyday to reform highsec for the better.

I am happy to offer my assistance with any further clarification. :)

Highsec is owned by players now. Systems 0.5-1.0 are New Order Territory. All miners and other residents of Highsec must obey The Code. Mining without a permit is dangerous and harmful to the EVE community. See www.MinerBumping.com
Wescro2
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2012-12-16 11:16:36 UTC
Harry Willie wrote:

Actually, the New New Order has already arrived in Kamio and has already starting mowing down the Knights.


Mowing them down with deadly carebear stares.
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#39 - 2012-12-16 22:48:58 UTC
Wescro2 wrote:
Harry Willie wrote:

Actually, the New New Order has already arrived in Kamio and has already starting mowing down the Knights.


Mowing them down with deadly carebear stares.


To be fair their stares are the strongest weapon they have because, you know, the thing about a carebear... he's got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll's eyes. When he starts minin', doesn't seem to be living... until he gets ganked, and those black eyes roll over white and then... ah then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin' and whinin'
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#40 - 2012-12-17 10:47:43 UTC
Bruno Mussolenth wrote:
Those 10,000,000 ISK you are demanding from each miner may well go to a bounty placed on you. Definitely a better way to spend one's money.


Makes for a better movie, too.

This is probably why James315's personal bounty is well past the one billion ISK point already and he's currently in a corporation consisting of exactly himself.

Not that he doesn't have plenty of flunkies and alts doing his bidding, but it's obvious that there's already so much heat on him that he's being forced to lead through proxy. Rather than proudly serving under his banner they're scattered to the winds and working more or less independently to make smaller targets of themselves.

Which is, if you think about it, pretty much how any halfway sensible terrorist group operates - his included.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0