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Haha! Funny ! More pissed off PubLords
Also, this is EvE, if you don't like that no where but station is safe, stop playing, nothing regarding the Sec system and CONCORD is broken. This thread is rather useless, Suicide ganking is part of the game as much as mining is, so deal with it.

I ******* hate it when Drake and I agree on something. It means the end is near.

Suicide gank mechanic has always been easy ( like your mom! Ba dum tiss). Also I might add there are indeed ways to defend against the suicide gankers (unless they're really motivated to kill that Hulk or whatever).
Some methods are:
1) Orca with remote reps
2)Oversized local reps
3) Common sense (OP has none of it)
These three tactics will help you not be a victim of the suicide gank, as easy it is to gank, its just as easy to avoid being ganked
So please, shut the **** up what you nothing about Draconis.
P.S TEST Alliance flat out don't give a ****. They remember this is a game

EDIT: My bad for 2x post, browser lagged

1: No one will fit an orca with remote reps you noob... there's 3 high slots and 2 are always fitted with gang links and I seriously doubt 1 remote rep will be enough to stop a gank. Try flying one sometime before you start spouting non-sense.

2: Oversized local reps? What the hell are you getting at again? Local remote rep? You ever fit a hulk with such a thing? You even understand the concept of fitting mechanics in a industrailist sense?

3: Agreed...OP never had any to begin with....nor do you when it comes to mining.


The problem is obvious...one you fail to understand because your too busy acting like an "Expert" short of blowing #### up so let me spell it out for you nooblet.

If someone wants to suicide gank they will do so without resistance or hesitation...and they will always (99%) succeed in doing so. A Protection fleet will fail at that point. Waste of time to debate.

THAT is why people hate it.

You cannot and you will not fit any mining barge in this game to withstand even an Tempest fitted for Alpha Strike.
As that is what seems to be the benchmark for most ganks.

I here people do it with smaller ships...destroyer or cruiser class.

That is a major gap.

The problem is not the gank...how the hell else can you eliminate someone with CONCORD protection in the first place.
The problem is inability to defend from such a strike in any shape form or fashion....it only takes 1 salvo to do the job...possibly 2 if your in a lower rated security system.

So for once angry...engage that thing we call a brain before you respond.
We already know you hate me..we already know your a nice big strong PVP'er who preys on easy targets with little to no effort.

That's not what we are discussing here.

Get with the program or get out.

Where the hell did my arguement go? Damn ****** ingame browser, oh well, Hiro is making my point clearly and simply.
TANK THE ******* SHIP AND USE COMMON SENSE

Look who's talking.

Sounds like you need to learn to read as well.

I never said one bloody thing about suicide ganking being not fair or complaining about it.
I'm only talking about hard facts and data.

You obviously have never tried to pilot a hulk....

The 180 bit is a metaphor...aligning a hulk is a waste of time at best because even if your nose is aimed in the correct exit vector you still have to throttle up and then get at the right angle of attack to warp out...especially if the exit vector is above or below your zero elevation. And even if your safe spot is spot on...your hulk or mack is slow as the slowest fat cat... and lets be honest...who doesn't land at zero on a gank strike without a cloaky pilot?

When they strike..its first salvo and your dead...period.

Lower sec rated systems gives them more time to take you down. They can bump you off course as well.

Its easier than shooting fish in a barrel at that rate...just look at all the fun the goons are having after all.

I'm also finding it laughable that people think they can tank their hulks to survive a suicide gank.
Yeah...right...keep going with that idea...you'll find out real fast its a total waste of time.

If it was possible...it wouldn't be so popular now would it.

Wake up and smell the quafe people...your just making pitiful excuses and refusing to read.

Suicide ganking is here to stay....but lets try to make it a little bit more interesting and try to make it challenging enough shall we?

If you haven't figured that much out...your just as dumb...if not worse... as you accuse me to be.

Serious case of "selective reading loss" If I ever saw one.

A few notes on "aligning".

If you are at a dead-stop, then it doesn't matter which way you are pointing when you click align-to (or warp-to or double-click in space). Your ship instantly turns (ignore the graphic) and immediately starts accelerating to 75% max velocity in order to enter warp. Doesn't matter whether you were originally pointed in the right direction, 180 degrees opposite, whatever.

Where alignment does come into play is if you are at a non-zero speed. In order for your ship to warp off in the direction that you want it to, the engines have to beat the inertia of the moving ship around and line it up on the vector at the same time that it is trying to get to 75% speed.

For those curious to test this - try webbing a corp-mate's freighter sometime. If you apply the web when it is sitting at zero velocity, you'll find that it warps off almost immediately (such as after a gate jump). If you apply the web as it exits a station or when it is moving at full speed, the freighter will spend a lot of time turning around to get on the outbound vector before it can warp off.

Nicely said. :)

OP, you must have clicked on the "I consent to PVP , anytime, anyplace" button. Amirite? That one down in the lower left hand corner? Otherwise...................how DID you get violenced?

Why in the nine crimson Hells is this thread still going? It's getting nowhere.

Bullet points to consider:
- Barges and Exhumers can be tanked to survive (but can only survive for so long)
- Barges and Exhumers with Logistics support can survive a gank fairly well
- Barges and Exhumers actually have scored kills due to the above listed point (the second one)
- Barges and Exhumers are broken down by class with each having a relative amount of EHP
Tier 1 - Procurer/Skiff (Frigate-class)
Tier 2 - Retriever/Mackinaw (Cruiser-class)
Tier 3 - Covetor/Hulk (Battlecruiser-class)
- The more you feed the trolls, the more they'll just keep coming back
- Drake, you're a ****ing moron in both an Industrial sense and a Literal sense as you neither read nor acknowledge the content of previous posters, but just throw a tantrum and try to make your "point" (also your grammar and spelling is atrocious)
- Suicide ganking is going to happen wherever, and whenever
- High Security space offers relative safety directly correlative to the security level of the system in question
- If you don't want to lose your barge/exhumer, mine in something more durable but less efficient and stop ****ing being a *****
- If you're sick of being picked on, either bring logistical support, mine in grav sites, or just don't mine (be a harder target)
- If EVE is too hard for you, give me your stuff and Biomass