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ISK NO OBJECT... BEST SHIP EVER???

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Maelle LuzArdiden
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2012-12-13 09:00:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Maelle LuzArdiden
Indecisive Cid wrote:


you are an ******* dude, im asking for help here, you seriously jealous of me having more isk to wipe my ass with than you do, but I have been around at least long enough to know that's horse ****, im just wanting a bad ass ship. that is all


im not trying to go Rambo on people, but its nice to cruise and explore without worry,


Ok, Cid, that's better, good that we got that out of the way. Oh yes, of course I'm spacepoor and jelly of your bought ISK, that would be the only reason to take the **** on you.

Anyway my point, like explained by Nihi in a less trolling tone, is that there is no such ship. It's not about the ship. It's not about the character.

It's about you.

Consider the ships as any RL gear. You have basic, entry level tools that do their job in the hands of a beginner. A true craftsman gets great results with the same entry level tool. Then you have the professional tools. Little more quirky to use, a beginner might actually do better with more forgiving, cheaper equipment, but the craftsman uses this specialized tool to make masterpieces.

Buying the highest end gear does not a master make, practice does.

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a side note to any douche bag NOT name luz approx. how many skill points do you lose? where can I find that info I looked online but did not find much,


You lose one level from your highest subsystem skill, randomly selected if they are all the same level.

Proteus is a fantastic ship in the right hands like any T3, but not better than a Thorax for the inexperienced- you just lose more. And losing is not really about the ISK, it your hurts your public CV, the killboard. And skill training plan, of course.

I've never had to worry about ISK after my nub days, and I could buy any ship available in game now. Instead I fly ships that I like, that are cheap to replace (this includes pimped up T3s) because if you really do solo PVP, take risks and take good fights, you will lose ships. It's inevitable and part of the game.
Indecisive Cid
Splash Inc.
#22 - 2012-12-13 09:37:04 UTC
so what would be a good thorax setup?

or variation of the thorax?
IXD
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#23 - 2012-12-13 09:49:56 UTC
this thread gave me cancer.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Nihi Lismus
A Lone Wolf Inc.
#24 - 2012-12-13 10:06:27 UTC
Good Thorax Fitting?
t2 Neutron blasters. a lot of them. nuff said

Helft dem Kleinkünstler!
Maelle LuzArdiden
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2012-12-13 10:18:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Maelle LuzArdiden
It was just changed like other cruisers, so new standard is yet to emerge.

First the old shield gank version, but vastly improved:

[Thorax, Ganknam style]

Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Overdrive Injector System II
Damage Control II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Large Shield Extender II
Stasis Webifier II

Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Hammerhead II x5


2281 m/s (3253!!!)
745 dps (833)
18.5K EHP

Scream across the field, land tackle, overheat and pray. Old blaster rush tactic, but with speed never seen before! DPS ain't half bad either for a cruiser.


Then a more resilient, anti-frig setup:

[Thorax, 1600mm]

Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

10MN Microwarpdrive II
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Stasis Webifier II
Stasis Webifier II

Heavy Electron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


Hornet EC-300 x5
Warrior II x5


1616 m/s (2287)
423 dps (474)
33.9K EHP


Or dual propulsion?

[Thorax, 800mm DP]

Damage Control II
800mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
10MN Afterburner II
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Stasis Webifier II

Heavy Ion Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


Hammerhead II x5


Or active tank with ECM drones?

[Thorax, Dual MAR]

Damage Control II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

Warp Disruptor II
Stasis Webifier II
10MN Afterburner II
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400

Heavy Electron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Null M

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Nanobot Accelerator I
Medium Nanobot Accelerator I


Vespa EC-600 x5


... or ASBs, TDs instead of webs, or what about rail kiting?

[Thorax, Rails]

Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Damage Control II

10MN Microwarpdrive II
Large Shield Extender II
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 200
Warp Disruptor II

200mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
200mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
200mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
200mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
200mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Medium Hybrid Burst Aerator I


Valkyrie II x5


It's up to you, what's your style, what kind of targets are most common in your area etc. Good luck!
Mortis Betruger
State War Academy
Caldari State
#26 - 2012-12-13 11:29:09 UTC
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Indecisive Cid
Splash Inc.
#27 - 2012-12-13 11:36:46 UTC
thanks for the info guys
IXD
Klown Walk
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#28 - 2012-12-13 12:13:49 UTC
Officer fit active tanked vindicator since you can almost use it with links + implants, probably the best brawler you can get.
Arya Greywolf
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#29 - 2012-12-13 16:23:01 UTC
Indecisive Cid wrote:
http://eveboard.com/pilot/Riker_Atros


The above link, links to my alt,

using him, and if isk was no object what would be the absolute epitome of a ship/set up to just randomly cruise around, hi or low sec, perhaps null, and oh hey I see one, or a few people that I decide I want to kill, I doubt that you can use one ship to kill more than perhaps 2-3 others, but if there's a setup that can take on 5 pvp's then let me know

im sure that I would need to train a few skills, but for the most part what would you choose? I don't want to train for another 6 months, but a few days is doable, I want to take him, me and a third dedicate orca pilot into deep null, perhaps a WH, and start taking advantage of more lucrative things.

thanks


Fit and Proteus and tell me where and when you're going to go PvPing - I'll tell you a great spot.
Alara IonStorm
#30 - 2012-12-13 16:44:58 UTC
Just a reminder looking at your EVE Board that the Battlecruiser and Destroyer skill Changes are coming soon that seperate them into 4 racial skills.

To get Battlecruiser V and Destroyer V for all races you have to have, I believe Racial Frigate 3 - Destroyers / Racial Cruiser 3 Battlecruisers to get that races skill.

If you don't have that and you ever decide to cross train you will have to train those rank 2 and 6 skills again from scratch vs a weeks training now.
ISD TYPE40
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2012-12-13 16:49:42 UTC
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