EVE General Discussion

588*3
-------- = 13 hours and 37 minutes of mining a month. "13.363636 continued" for the curious minded folks.
(44*3)

I just want to point out that just because the answer is 13.363636 does not mean that it is 13 hours and some change. When you enter the above equation into a calculator, you will get that same answer everytime but it it not right because the unit of measurement needs to converted to a time format. I was wrong in using the terms "decimal numbering system" but my math is not incorrect.

100 minutes in an hour, that's just silly. If this is what you got from my previous post, then I can not help you and you need to have a long talk with your 5th grade math teacher.

The "13.36363636" is not in hours unit of measurement when you first get the answer from the above equation. It needs to be converted to hours before you can finish the rest. The 21 minutes and 49 seconds are correct for 0.36363636 if the 13.36363636 is in hours format.

i have a dream

all miners would stop mining for a week,or stop selling ore

after a week prices would skyrocket so high,ppl would start asking why dont i mine

then you d hear the biggest collective laugh ever

Right, let's do he equivilant of stop selling fuel for a day in the real world.

All miners halt, for 3 days. Once the three days are over make a profit of 10x what you would usually make :) Then in pvp all that would win the fight would be who could build the ship faster :)

I do mining/prod to be self sufficient. I prefer backwater areas, usually hi-sec trapped in pockets of lo-sec and being able to produce all my own equipment means I'm not at the mercy of the local capitalists. On the mining side it's simply easier to semi-afk mine the large bulk minerals you find in hi-sec belts than try to run them in through the low-sec gate camps. And for the things you can't mine in hi-sec, it's easy enough to run them through in bulk since you don't need a lot of mega/zydrine to build your cruisers and what not.

Of course this in itself becomes an interesting game. If I want to build a small fleet of cruisers and fittings to PvP pop on the weekend I need to work out supply chains, research options, belt/refining systems, and the transports/skills to run what I can't make myself through hostile areas. Do I POS for research labs? Buy pre-researched BPOs? Invent my own t2 prints(and do I use POS labs for copies then) or find a good supplier for that? To get this stuff down to my indy system do I use small frigate runners, transports with MWD/cloak tricking, blockage runners or just jump freight it in? If I have a common need do I setup a routine supply order with a null sec alliance/corp? Maybe there's a 3rd party corp that'll already do that for me.

It's a very complex system that's a complete entire game in itself.

I think this is the part of your original post that confused me - I read that to mean you were using some kind of funky 100 minutes per hour system - which, as you pointed out, is just silly. I'll admit, I didn't go back and read the original equation, which is what I should have done before trying to correct your math.

My apologies.

Because different people like different things, and EVE lets them do it.

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I don't even know why this got to 9 pages. If we all liked doing the same things, life would be pretty boring, and so would EVE.

money

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Why does everything have to be an absolute? Is nothing in your life an issue of enjoying something enough that you ignore the issues that come along with it?

I think a lot of people mine because there is a lot of stuff to enjoy about Eve, not just the PvP. So they ignore the PvP and keep an eye on local (well, not all of them), but they go about their own business enjoying the sandbox they way they choose to enjoy it.

I was originally attracted to Eve because it was a sci-fi based game, and had a full economy with some real depth to it in regards to the market and industry. I've always enjoyed the crafting aspect of MMO's. Do I enjoy PvP? Not really. I've learned how to do it out of necessity, but when I am logged into Eve, I'm not out looking for targets. I'm looking to achieve the next build goal that I've set for myself. I've built frigates, cruisers, battleships, freighters, and so on.

For me, in the long run, Eve is a relatively cheap hobby when it comes to spending time building stuff. I don't even sell most of the ships I build. I stock pile them in a hangar to keep them as markers for progress.

That's how I choose to use the sandbox. That's how I choose to spend my $ each month. Because it's enjoyable to me, and a lot cheaper than a number of RL hobbies.

PvP is a facet of Eve. One that I deal with when it comes looking for me. Other than that I ignore it and do my own thing.

So you dont understand why ppl do something YOU dont find interesting? wow, i bet you intergrate well into society..

what a pointless thread

i was once told off for putting a logical and balanced discussion post in GD.