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Capital reps and Armor Links (Confirmed Stealth Nerf)

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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#181 - 2012-12-05 13:51:43 UTC
Next step is to role back FW plex warpin positions and we can call it a perfect expansion

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
Moirae Nemesis
Kill All Ships In Style
#182 - 2012-12-05 17:18:20 UTC
too pissed off at you ccp to make a comprehensible post.
CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#183 - 2012-12-05 17:22:45 UTC
We fixed this earlier this morning FYI.

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Cyaron wars
Academia RED HOT Corporation
#184 - 2012-12-05 22:29:59 UTC
Thank you dear Sir, but now I think you screwed other thing. If your are sitting on safe spot and give out bonuses while your fleet is fighting, you get agression. That's minor issue but still.
DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
Stealth Alliance
#185 - 2012-12-06 12:01:07 UTC
Cyaron wars wrote:
Thank you dear Sir, but now I think you screwed other thing. If your are sitting on safe spot and give out bonuses while your fleet is fighting, you get agression. That's minor issue but still.

That's a pretty major point that's been scimmed over if true...

Damn nature, you scary!
Kaivaja
State War Academy
Caldari State
#186 - 2012-12-07 11:18:56 UTC
Cyaron wars wrote:
Thank you dear Sir, but now I think you screwed other thing. If your are sitting on safe spot and give out bonuses while your fleet is fighting, you get agression. That's minor issue but still.

Does it really work like this now? I have to test it. This is very good change. Giving bonuses certainly classifies as giving remote assistance and any remote assistance must give flags.
Draconus Lofwyr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#187 - 2012-12-07 20:07:24 UTC
glad the changes have been rolled back and time will be spent evaluating the changes. But this issue highlights a disturbing trend overall that has been getting worse and worse since CCP developed the ability to roll out micropatches and changes on the fly. I have been noticing many a morning that i start up the eve client and notice a quick blip of "building patch" when no patch has been announced, or changes have been announced, and no record of a patch anywhere on the patch notes pages. and when patches ARE announced, they are either announced the morning of the patch with no fanfare, or the patch notes come out only hours to at most a day before the patch is due to hit.

CCP used to post the planned patch notes a week to 2 weeks in advance and update the notes as time got closer to give the playerbase some time to review and comment on upcoming patches. now its as if they dont want us to know whats coming as well as (this is one case as well) nerfs and changes to game functionality that is either completely missing, or glossed over to make major changes seem negligible. an example in question that is totally silly and not harmful that made no notice on any patch notes is a change to cloaking. You used to be able to enter a pos shields cloaked and not be decloaked by the shields, but now, just crossing the threshold decloaks you. This forces an asset to be revealed before being fully inside a pos shields.

It seems as if CCP doesn't want to be transparent until after the fact. Come on CCP, lets get some more transparency so we can keep these kind of situations from happening again.
iskflakes
#188 - 2012-12-10 19:41:35 UTC  |  Edited by: iskflakes
Does anybody know if there's some kind of flowchart showing which bonuses/implants affect which capital modules/fighters/bombers and which don't? Something like the crimewatch flag diagrams?

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Maraner
The Executioners
#189 - 2012-12-12 00:37:59 UTC
Please think long and hard before you consider nerfing triage. It's a huge train, it costs a ton of isk to do and it lets small fleets fight against ridiculous odds plus it gets carriers killed.. a lot. As someone that routinely drops carriers to rep small fleets in fights often grossly outnumbered (and often not outnumbered Twisted) I would strongly urge against changes to what we have currently.

Should in the future it get nerfed into oblivion like the changes you just rolled back, I will be in a long line of people screaming blue bloody murder and demanding a refund of SP - sorry.

Thanks for rolling this back rapidly, well done on owning it. Looking forward to what you bring next to the game.

Tess La'Coil
Messerschmitt Vertrieb und Logistik
#190 - 2012-12-13 11:32:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Tess La'Coil
CCP Fozzie wrote:
We fixed this earlier this morning FYI.


Close topic please?

But I read sub-capital skill req's would be removed but it's not happened yet.
Are there plans to remove the sub-capital level 5 skill for remote reps?
Someone once said I was a muppet. If that's so, I'm quite sure the Swedish Chef is my brother. 
Pinky Denmark
The Cursed Navy
#191 - 2012-12-13 15:56:51 UTC
Admitting without blinking is a sign of a better CCP.
Every other douchebag company would have hidden the fact or ignored you. The change might be unwelcomed but the nerf was clearly just not explained in full in the patch notes... The capitals will hopefully have a major overhaul before summer anyway.

This change however should be promptly communicated to the masses - as mentioned it's pretty important for many capital ship owners...
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