EVE New Citizens Q&A

How did you find the 1 corp that has "newbie friendly" and "15 m SP" requirement out of all the corps out there?

I believe you're not really a newbie and you've just read the 1 blue dev thread in this forum and are making up a situation in order to just troll / complain about PVP.

This....

Find it extremely funny that you

1.) Put in a link to that other thread.
2.) All of this happened with you only being 1 day old.
3.) It clearly shows that the knowledge about EVE means you have played more then just 1 day.

Ergo, forum alt, whining forum alt, trolling forum alt but most likely whining and trolling forum alt.


If you want a MMO where you can do carebearing stuff in complete safety, there are plenty of MMOs that offer that. EVE isn't one of those...

What I find really amusing that it started with friendly and helpful responses but it escalated quickly :)

Forums are sandbox too with aggro mechanics and stuff :)

I am three months in to EVE and all i have done is PVE and enjoyed it and yet to be attacked in high sec for no reason.Now if High sec was completely safe i would get bored .I like the fact that there is a chance that i could be killed at any given moment.It adds to the tension and game play and makes you want to learn how to counter them. The level of ships your flying your insurance should cover most of the cost of a loss.So i would just put it down to experience and move on )

Sry if someone missunderstood my thinkings but english is not my native language.

I dont have anything against PvP because i like PvP but i dont like kill extremly lower player or be killed because i cannot do anything against it.
I like the system from Neocron you kill people and you cannot safly go inside Zones where is security to prevent against this bad guys to kill low players, they can do it but its more dangerous than here.

And that thing with Coorps i read this in this forum and with my depressed thinking ist more or less an rageing post with it, sry if i got someone hurt.
I would play my first 2 or 3 Weeks as an lone Wolf and will learning by doing the EvE World.

And thx that my knowlegde about if let you think that im longer than 2 Days playing this game, i only read EvEWiki, Forum and some Cooporation sides to inform me about the game and dont have to ask all 2 min. about something, im myself an selfinformer the most time.

And im realy thankfull about to inform me what others can do with an probe to find me ore others.

I think you are confusing can flipping with simple theft, as many do these days. Can flipping was where you steal from a guy, then can shoot him when he steals it back (endless t1 hauler kills, boring). You turn his can into your can (the flip). With crimewatch you have the right to steal from anyone you can shoot, therefore the dude who was flipped can steal his stuff back and not be shot. To actually can flip now you need a second char to flip the can you flipped so that it no longer belongs to a suspect. The original owner will then become suspect if he takes it back and anyone can shoot him including your 2 chars.

So yeah can flipping with char was nerfed, it still works with 2 but :effort:.

Now this is an attitude we can work with.

The number of people that only pick on new players isn't very high.
They are usually people who think they are badass cause they can kill new players.
The real competent PvP players pick fights with people who CAN fight back.

As for a place where new players are safe from this behaviour:

Malcanis' law* comes into place.
It will mean that experienced players will be able to make alt characters that can make money more safely.
And there is already a small mechanic in game too prevent new player griefing.

In Rookie systems grief play just to kill new players is prohibited and if you are the victim or see it happen you can actually petition it to CCP and appropriate actions will be taken against the offender (As stated you must be the victim or see it happen - and be able to provide proof it happened).

As for that 15mil SP minimum vs new player friendly corporation thread. That was made by a stupid person who didn't do his research and happened to find one of the exceptions in EVE. There are plenty of corporations in EVE that will take a new player regardless of the amount of SP they have. Never ever judge stuff by looking at 1 source, always look for other sources that agree or disagree with that first source you found. Forums are player made and thus will ALWAYS involve personal opinions and examples of what that person encountered. If you want real and solid source of information, find multiple sources that back up each other...

A great example of a corp that takes on anybody in EVE: EVE University. Their sole purpose to exist is to train new players. Another corporation you can join regardless of SP is RvB (They are a community of 2 corporations: Red Federation and Blue Republic). RvB however is purely PvP based, you join them to PvP, not to run missions or mine.

* = Malcanis' Law: "Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of 'new players', that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players."

This the prime example of what you describe is an error made by you.

If they steal something from your wreck / container they still can't shoot you legally.

You can shoot them legally, but if you do that they can defend themself.

So if someone steals your stuff and you don't react:

* They can't shoot you without CONCORD showing up.
* they will grow bored quite fast and move away.

The guy who killed you actually preyed on you as you likely didn't know the game mechanics regarding aggression rights. And that was what killed you. Not his high SP or massive amount of ISK.

Obviously you must have given the aggressing player a possibility to shoot you with impunity. If you`re not trolling (kill me, i can`t really tell) your frustration, besides self-controlling your own emotions, is deeply rooted in the lack of knowledge of the game, which of course would be obvious as you appear to be a 2 days old character. Someone already stated that you should join Eve University. It`s a bunch of friendly people that will help you understand the mechanics governing the gameplay, rules of engagement and whatnot, which hopefully will give you less reasons to be frustrated about and actually make the game more enjoyable to you.

Having said that please also bear in mind that this game resembles very much the world we live in. Any time, any moment in life, whether you`re crossing over a street or buying icecreams in a local store anybody can pick a fight with you without a specific reason. As soon as you realize and accept the fact that you can lose anything you possess in the game, it`ll become less frustrating and bring you more joy.

Peace Out

p.s.
Don`t get discouraged too quickly