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Right so this has definetly been mentioned multiple times, but its something that has to be reiterated.

Eve is chaos, you can't just bring random people into your corporation adn trust them, people need to EARN trust, giving trust freely si a weakness quickly exploited. I know many corps have dual-trial periods for members before they can even join, starting with them being blue, but not joined, flying some fleets, then joining a "training corp",a nd eventually after proving themselves trustworthy, get to join the main group.

eve is never meant to be completely safe, from anything, including "friends", it's a agme where survival is based upon solid friendships and proven trust, if someone lacks either of the previous 2, its usually better to not let them have access to your stuff, information channels, or operation dates for your industrial activities.

and as stated before, never send an indy that can't be alpha'd (orcas) on ANY run alone, send jammers/alpha ships to keep it safe.

If everyone wants to continue to work around this rather than fix it, fine. Seems to be popular opinion (at least of players checking this thread.)

I think its illogical to keep something that's only existence is to make life harder. Doesn't add value to game play and will only cause management issues and headaches.

But why look at it from that point of view?

It's always been this way, better to keep it.

No one is blaming anyone here. I'm simply stating the opinion that this mechanic is outdated and not needed.

The biggest -gameplay- reason for Corp killing to happen was friendly fire concording players for accidently hitting a corpmate.

This is no longer the case, and I feel the only thing it serves now is abuse.


Not a lot of ways to interrupt this... but everyone is going to get upset anyways I suppose.

I don't want to flag myself to ALL of EVE in my freighter just to web myself tyvm....

The "aggression against corp mechanics" is all we have left to web orcas/freighters in high sec

I should think that the biggest gameplay reason was actually to keep player corps subject to sabotage and all those other "ooh darkbad harsh universe ooh" things that CCP likes in EVE.

You need to think carefully about who you recruit and, if you really want to recruit noobs with dubious pasts, protect your assets even from your own corp members. Bring your own alt as a guard, use an alt corp for your valuables, tank your ships, and all those other things that also give you a defense against suicide ganking. That fosters an atmosphere of trust between corp members, because the corp members know that their recruiters are looking out for them and they know that they have ways of keeping themselves safe. That in turn fosters an atmosphere of "if you betray the corporation, everyone else will find you and they will kill you".

This certainly won't completely prevent AWOXing or corp theft or what-have-you, but that will serve you much better on a corporation-wide security scale than "well no one can shoot my orca in a belt, we're safe now". And maybe stop recruiting noobs with dubious pasts. Hold out for the classy scammers who burn years-old alts to ruin your corporation utterly.

Eve is a dark game where anything is possible, theft, piracy, space prostitution etc

What you are proposing is basically the start of the end in terms of this gameplay philosophy.

Next you will be suggesting that ships should be put back into the station and have to be repaired instead of blowing up and loosing all your stuffs.

Dont get me wrong, its never nice to loose your stuff, especially to someone in your corp but that is eve and its why we love it.

I suggest that if you dont want corpies to blow up your shiney's then be selective in your recruitment and keep expensive ships like boosting orca's in an Alt corp.

Other than than if you really have a problem with guild/corp mates awox'ing or nicking your stuff go and play WoW or some other game where a whiney mail to the GM's will get you your stuff put back

or as we say round by me "Go Hard or Go Yard brah"

PS. U mad bro?

As a player who semi regularly kills corpmate orcas and other shiny toys, I understand your concern however this is not a game mechanic problem but a lazy CEO problem and a complacent player problem. Residing in highsec is a terrible excuse for not fitting a tank on a ship or taking even the most basic security measures. I wrote a blog post about how to avoid such problems arising:

http://cyprusblack.blogspot.com/2012/12/in-corp-ganking-its-easier-to-avoid.html

It's a basic rundown on how to avoid in-corp ganking, corp theft, and weeding out generally troublesome players.

False.

Being entirely honest, someone in a thrasher can easily take down a corp members Orca if he's smart enough... The thing about being in a corp is to develop relationships and working together (good corp members do that) and it's a sign of a good CEO or group of corp admins to Vet the people they let into the corp (Good CEO's/recruiters do that). It's not just about game mechanics, it's about social decisions and that is the key thing that separates EvE from damn near every other game out there. Choices whether they be good or poor have consequences, When CONCORD dictates the terms of every highsec engagement, it's not about the choices players make anymore.

There is NOTHING to fix, how many times do we have to repeat this? There are a number of legitimate reasons for allowing corpmates to fire upon each other, and no reasons other than butthurt to disallow it