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TheMittani.com Gal/Cal FW update

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Ashterothi
The Order of Thelemic Ascension
The Invited
#1 - 2012-12-12 19:37:11 UTC
This week has been busy for the Gallente Federation. I have written my coverage of the situation and it is published at http://themittani.com/news/gallente-war-machine-rages.

I do not plan on clogging up this forum with every news post, this is a public service announcement to let you know that I have started doing this on themittani. For all further news and updates, come check me out there! Lol

My idea is to give news from all warfronts, and although this article is basically good news for my side, I would like to hear from all four factions and be able to write news for FW. IMO FW news can be just as interesting as sov war (actually more so). Feel free to contact me if you have a perspective you would like to share. YAY exposure!

Thanks for your time, I hope you like it!

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Soulless Brutor
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-12-12 19:49:03 UTC
It would help if you actually had your facts right. One CCP did a ninja patch, and messed over caldari, second enulari and hallen were not key systems, other then to base at for more pvp. Then you mention the caldari superior numbers? Have you even looked at the warzone, gallente out number caldari more then 2:1. If you are basing numbers based on the militia page where it shows the number of pilots in the militia try and understand that only maybe 10 percent of the actually number is active pilots in the warzone. For example in fleet combat gals have been fielding around 50-60 per fleet with multiple fleets going at once, as were caldari was only fielding 20-30 at max some nights with only one fleet. So next time please look more in depth into the battlefield.

Thanks,
Soulless Brutor
kraiklyn Asatru
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-12-12 19:55:21 UTC
Expect this to devolve from here.

:) Now who dares write an Amarr vs Minnie article.
Ashterothi
The Order of Thelemic Ascension
The Invited
#4 - 2012-12-12 19:56:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Ashterothi
I know about the ninja patch, address it in that post, and address it at length in my earlier one.

Enulari and Hallen are station/mission systems. In the middle of the warzone and thus lend strategic advantage. And several other systems have fallen.

According to Faction Warfare stats provided by CCP the Caldari are the second most populated faction (even after they purged inactive pilots) . Gallente is third.

For more information about that see this handy sheet I made the other day based on the news stats provided, although admittedly it is now a couple days old: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ai-Di2DS6zcTdFktVjhWVFU2bVJjb2syd2hybUhIMkE#gid=0

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#5 - 2012-12-12 19:58:56 UTC
Ashterothi wrote:
This week has been busy for the Gallente Federation. I have written my coverage of the situation and it is published at http://themittani.com/ne



You lost me right about there...maybe slightly before that even.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Ashterothi
The Order of Thelemic Ascension
The Invited
#6 - 2012-12-12 19:59:10 UTC
Honestly, I would love to write an Amarr/Minni update. I would like to hear from both sides their take, and look at some numbers, but I think the Amarr are making a pretty interesting comeback since the rules change.

*checks his charts*

Well... maybe not. Anywho, contact me! :D

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Ashterothi
The Order of Thelemic Ascension
The Invited
#7 - 2012-12-12 20:01:33 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Ashterothi wrote:
This week has been busy for the Gallente Federation. I have written my coverage of the situation and it is published at http://themittani.com/ne



You lost me right about there...maybe slightly before that even.

I am one of their newest hires, and have nothing to do with Goons. I just like writing things, but not enough to justify my own blog, so its a good outlet for me.

I would ask that you read my work. If you don't like it, tell me why. If you do, tell me why. I am sorry that you would judge my work based on the venue. Would you be happier if I wrote for EVE News 24?

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Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
United Caldari Space Command.
#8 - 2012-12-12 21:53:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Deen Wispa
Soulless Brutor wrote:
It would help if you actually had your facts right. One CCP did a ninja patch, and messed over caldari, second enulari and hallen were not key systems, other then to base at for more pvp. Then you mention the caldari superior numbers? Have you even looked at the warzone, gallente out number caldari more then 2:1. If you are basing numbers based on the militia page where it shows the number of pilots in the militia try and understand that only maybe 10 percent of the actually number is active pilots in the warzone. For example in fleet combat gals have been fielding around 50-60 per fleet with multiple fleets going at once, as were caldari was only fielding 20-30 at max some nights with only one fleet. So next time please look more in depth into the battlefield.

Thanks,
Soulless Brutor


Without giving me a trollish rebuttal, I challenge you to provide me the stats where Gallente outnumber Caldari 2:1, as you just stated. I also challenge you to please show where on God's green earth that Gallente has consistently fielded 50 people for multiple fleets as you just stated.

Edit: Unless you are referring to Friday Night Eve Radio fleets which can possibly hit 50ish. But that's once a week and very very kitchen sink.

High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .
Cynthia Nezmor
Nezmor's Golden Griffins
#9 - 2012-12-12 22:00:54 UTC
So full of blatant lies, outrageous propaganda and just generally clueless statements, it should be branded as a nice attempt of trolling, or a sad attempt of libel.
Ame Sonoda
Perkone
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-12-12 22:59:39 UTC
Seems pretty spot on to me. Would read again.
Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
United Caldari Space Command.
#11 - 2012-12-12 23:23:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Deen Wispa
I personally find the comments in the blog post to be quite lulzworthy. Just a few snippets;

Quote:
As someone who was in Kraken when the surprise change took place I've got a few things to add. Calmil was already struggling to gain momentum against the gals. It was their (our) stated objective to take Nennamalia after losing Kinaka and nothing ever came of that. Key to the gal's success was a small group of very active, eve-rich pilots. They usually were fleeted up and in expensive fits. These guys blunted the PvP hopes of many by laying out traps. Conversely the calmil core group fancied themselves expert FCs. They frequently lead large groups of 'young' pvpers into aforementioned deathtraps. Or they'd gather a large fleet and wait for the gals to come out and play. (They then cried when after 2hr waits we'd get stomped by a larger fleet.)

TL;DR - Calmil was miserable before, and with Kraken gone the last semblance of competence is gone. Don't expect change any time soon.


Quote:
My corp joined Caldari for the easy to find fights, but immediately swapped out to the amarr/minnie fight when we discovered the caldari military channel is more used for people begging for isk, whining about losses, and petty hatred towards one another. Herding cats across a river would be easier than getting the caldari organized enough to not be the little ***** in that fight...




On a side note, I hated to see Kraken leave. I like winning as much as the next person but not at the risk of less pew. I really wish CCP would fix this new farming mechanic. Shooting 1 rat is silly and it's farmville all over again.

High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .
Antares 04
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-12-12 23:26:50 UTC
Soulless Brutor wrote:
It would help if you actually had your facts right. One CCP did a ninja patch, and messed over caldari, second enulari and hallen were not key systems, other then to base at for more pvp. Then you mention the caldari superior numbers? Have you even looked at the warzone, gallente out number caldari more then 2:1. If you are basing numbers based on the militia page where it shows the number of pilots in the militia try and understand that only maybe 10 percent of the actually number is active pilots in the warzone. For example in fleet combat gals have been fielding around 50-60 per fleet with multiple fleets going at once, as were caldari was only fielding 20-30 at max some nights with only one fleet. So next time please look more in depth into the battlefield.

Thanks,
Soulless Brutor


Haters...

Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Ashterothi wrote:
This week has been busy for the Gallente Federation. I have written my coverage of the situation and it is published at http://themittani.com/ne



You lost me right about there...maybe slightly before that even.


...gonna...

Cynthia Nezmor wrote:
So full of blatant lies, outrageous propaganda and just generally clueless statements, it should be branded as a nice attempt of trolling, or a sad attempt of libel.


...hate.

/Ignore, and move on with your work OP o7
Ashterothi
The Order of Thelemic Ascension
The Invited
#13 - 2012-12-12 23:28:17 UTC
Deen Wispa wrote:
I personally find the comments in the blog post to quite lulzworthy. Just a few snippets;

Quote:
As someone who was in Kraken when the surprise change took place I've got a few things to add. Calmil was already struggling to gain momentum against the gals. It was their (our) stated objective to take Nennamalia after losing Kinaka and nothing ever came of that. Key to the gal's success was a small group of very active, eve-rich pilots. They usually were fleeted up and in expensive fits. These guys blunted the PvP hopes of many by laying out traps. Conversely the calmil core group fancied themselves expert FCs. They frequently lead large groups of 'young' pvpers into aforementioned deathtraps. Or they'd gather a large fleet and wait for the gals to come out and play. (They then cried when after 2hr waits we'd get stomped by a larger fleet.)

TL;DR - Calmil was miserable before, and with Kraken gone the last semblance of competence is gone. Don't expect change any time soon.


Quote:
My corp joined Caldari for the easy to find fights, but immediately swapped out to the amarr/minnie fight when we discovered the caldari military channel is more used for people begging for isk, whining about losses, and petty hatred towards one another. Herding cats across a river would be easier than getting the caldari organized enough to not be the little ***** in that fight...




On a side note, I hated to see Kraken leave. I like winning as much as the next person but not at the risk of less pew. I really wish CCP would fix this new farming mechanic. Shooting 1 rat is silly and it's farmville all over again.


I strongly agree. While I was writing this post the first time over the weekend, and watching the events unfold, I was both excited about victory, and saddened about what that mean for our war-zone.

The nightmare scenario of FW would be two allies both winning their perspective warzones, and working together to crush any insurrection, and I fear this is moving in that direction.

Hey, that sounds like something to write about...

Watch me live for all your Empyrean news and analysis!

Ashterothi
The Order of Thelemic Ascension
The Invited
#14 - 2012-12-12 23:29:02 UTC
Antares 04 wrote:
Soulless Brutor wrote:
It would help if you actually had your facts right. One CCP did a ninja patch, and messed over caldari, second enulari and hallen were not key systems, other then to base at for more pvp. Then you mention the caldari superior numbers? Have you even looked at the warzone, gallente out number caldari more then 2:1. If you are basing numbers based on the militia page where it shows the number of pilots in the militia try and understand that only maybe 10 percent of the actually number is active pilots in the warzone. For example in fleet combat gals have been fielding around 50-60 per fleet with multiple fleets going at once, as were caldari was only fielding 20-30 at max some nights with only one fleet. So next time please look more in depth into the battlefield.

Thanks,
Soulless Brutor


Haters...

Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Ashterothi wrote:
This week has been busy for the Gallente Federation. I have written my coverage of the situation and it is published at http://themittani.com/ne



You lost me right about there...maybe slightly before that even.


...gonna...

Cynthia Nezmor wrote:
So full of blatant lies, outrageous propaganda and just generally clueless statements, it should be branded as a nice attempt of trolling, or a sad attempt of libel.


...hate.

/Ignore, and move on with your work OP o7

You can't make me laugh out loud that hard at work. It's not fair :(

Watch me live for all your Empyrean news and analysis!

Antares 04
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-12-12 23:40:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Antares 04
I am not responcible for knowing when you post stuff from work or not, that's your ass :P

Deen Wispa wrote:
Shooting 1 rat is silly and it's farmville all over again.


As opposed to having a gun-less speed-fitted T1 frig farm ALL complexes without problems?

This new system is eons better than the alternative. Farmers will always find a way. If there were no rats, they would just fly stabbed frigates nd warp once a player shows up, now they fly with guns and kill the rats and warp when a player shows up, before they warped off their gunless frigs... farmers will always find a way. Ignore this fact and enjoy the system for what it does for your PVP with actually willing players.
Ayumi Nevinyrall
E-Baba
#16 - 2012-12-13 00:59:48 UTC
Ashterothi wrote:
This week has been busy for the Gallente Federa

I got that far, then all I read was. "Drivel drivel, wrong data, missing info, web page with more censoring then China."

...
Andre Vauban
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-12-13 01:16:41 UTC
Ashterothi wrote:
Deen Wispa wrote:
I personally find the comments in the blog post to quite lulzworthy. Just a few snippets;

Quote:
As someone who was in Kraken when the surprise change took place I've got a few things to add. Calmil was already struggling to gain momentum against the gals. It was their (our) stated objective to take Nennamalia after losing Kinaka and nothing ever came of that. Key to the gal's success was a small group of very active, eve-rich pilots. They usually were fleeted up and in expensive fits. These guys blunted the PvP hopes of many by laying out traps. Conversely the calmil core group fancied themselves expert FCs. They frequently lead large groups of 'young' pvpers into aforementioned deathtraps. Or they'd gather a large fleet and wait for the gals to come out and play. (They then cried when after 2hr waits we'd get stomped by a larger fleet.)

TL;DR - Calmil was miserable before, and with Kraken gone the last semblance of competence is gone. Don't expect change any time soon.


Quote:
My corp joined Caldari for the easy to find fights, but immediately swapped out to the amarr/minnie fight when we discovered the caldari military channel is more used for people begging for isk, whining about losses, and petty hatred towards one another. Herding cats across a river would be easier than getting the caldari organized enough to not be the little ***** in that fight...




On a side note, I hated to see Kraken leave. I like winning as much as the next person but not at the risk of less pew. I really wish CCP would fix this new farming mechanic. Shooting 1 rat is silly and it's farmville all over again.


I strongly agree. While I was writing this post the first time over the weekend, and watching the events unfold, I was both excited about victory, and saddened about what that mean for our war-zone.

The nightmare scenario of FW would be two allies both winning their perspective warzones, and working together to crush any insurrection, and I fear this is moving in that direction.

Hey, that sounds like something to write about...


For all you new guys, I'm going to quote some Battlestar Gallactica. "All of this has happened before and it will happen again." There was a time when Gavin would park a 100 man squid fleet off Nina station and we could hardly even undock. The Caldari were utterly dominant. FW is a forever war and the balance constantly swings from one side to the other.

.
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#18 - 2012-12-13 04:56:37 UTC
Soulless Brutor wrote:
Have you even looked at the warzone, gallente out number caldari more then 2:1.

That's because Gallente corporations and alliances tend to stay in FW whereas Caldari use FW as a stepping stone to 0.0 boredom. I'm sure you know of a few corporations and alliances that have bailed for "greener" pastures. See ya.
Soulless Brutor
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-12-13 05:34:14 UTC
Deen Wispa wrote:
Soulless Brutor wrote:
It would help if you actually had your facts right. One CCP did a ninja patch, and messed over caldari, second enulari and hallen were not key systems, other then to base at for more pvp. Then you mention the caldari superior numbers? Have you even looked at the warzone, gallente out number caldari more then 2:1. If you are basing numbers based on the militia page where it shows the number of pilots in the militia try and understand that only maybe 10 percent of the actually number is active pilots in the warzone. For example in fleet combat gals have been fielding around 50-60 per fleet with multiple fleets going at once, as were caldari was only fielding 20-30 at max some nights with only one fleet. So next time please look more in depth into the battlefield.

Thanks,
Soulless Brutor


Without giving me a trollish rebuttal, I challenge you to provide me the stats where Gallente outnumber Caldari 2:1, as you just stated. I also challenge you to please show where on God's green earth that Gallente has consistently fielded 50 people for multiple fleets as you just stated.

Edit: Unless you are referring to Friday Night Eve Radio fleets which can possibly hit 50ish. But that's once a week and very very kitchen sink.



http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=15042975
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=15355156
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=15291544 <--- you had 80 in your fleet they didn't all whore on kill mails do you want me to dig up more?
Soulless Brutor
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2012-12-13 05:42:31 UTC
Soulless Brutor wrote:
Deen Wispa wrote:
Soulless Brutor wrote:
It would help if you actually had your facts right. One CCP did a ninja patch, and messed over caldari, second enulari and hallen were not key systems, other then to base at for more pvp. Then you mention the caldari superior numbers? Have you even looked at the warzone, gallente out number caldari more then 2:1. If you are basing numbers based on the militia page where it shows the number of pilots in the militia try and understand that only maybe 10 percent of the actually number is active pilots in the warzone. For example in fleet combat gals have been fielding around 50-60 per fleet with multiple fleets going at once, as were caldari was only fielding 20-30 at max some nights with only one fleet. So next time please look more in depth into the battlefield.

Thanks,
Soulless Brutor


Without giving me a trollish rebuttal, I challenge you to provide me the stats where Gallente outnumber Caldari 2:1, as you just stated. I also challenge you to please show where on God's green earth that Gallente has consistently fielded 50 people for multiple fleets as you just stated.

Edit: Unless you are referring to Friday Night Eve Radio fleets which can possibly hit 50ish. But that's once a week and very very kitchen sink.



http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=15042975
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=15355156
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=15291544 <--- you had 80 in your fleet they didn't all ***** on kill mails do you want me to dig up more?



http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=14832797
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=14639810
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=14639328
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=14845299
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