EVE General Discussion

wow, after so many months of people complaining constantly on the forums about how not enough is being done for FiS because of WiS, the ceo in an unprecidented move capitulates to the demands of the rabble and changes the entire company structure to accomidate their demands, what do we get? pages and pages of posts by people complaining that they're not gonna focus on WiS, we were SO looking forward to WiS, i cant believe they're doing stupid FIS etc. just proves, haters gonna hate, take that as a lesson CCP, dont let the fools lead you around by the nose, they're most definitely blind

Heh, this is funny .
I actually think most people who fought against WiS and for FiS the past few months are actively insulting and provoking those who show their love for WiS.
You should see it in the threads. The thing is, FiS whiners have shut up, because most of them are really looking forward to winter expansion whereas most of the WiS people now have more space to flourish and spread their whining upon these boards.

im not saying its the same people complaining, im saying that theres always someone who's gonna complain, what ever they're doing the forums will be full of people demanding the opposite

Maybe because CCP let players hope about FIS&WIS but can't deliver both at the same time?

you sound angry


CCP sent out surveys to account owners with unsubbed accounts asking why they unsubbed and what would it take to get them back.

around the same time players revolted in jita about how crap incarna was and at how much supers were overpowered..........

ccp held an emergency csm meeting and asked why players were leaving in droves.

it all was down to the fact eve online is a spaceship game........... always was a space ship......... and should always be a space ship game.

while walking in station might be entertaining for a week or two after the novelty wears off most players wont bother leave the ship when docked to do their business.

allowing eve to suffer just to please the dress the newly subbed space barbie doll players at the expense of players who have invested upto 8 years of their lives and money was wrong and 120 CCP staff have paid the price for that mistake.

incarna 2.0 will have to wait or else there will be no WiS if the rest of eve players have left cos of FiS neglect.


CCP made the decision to save EVE by fixing it so deal with it. Us pro FiS players have had to wait 2 years of useless barbie doll expansions now it's our turn to get stuff WE want.

At the same time. We as the consumers should not blindly believe anything that CCP has to tell us. Enough of thier words and development post. They are needed yes to silence the voices that demand to be in the know and theres nothing wrong with that...

They have proven and stated themselves that they basically can't be trusted without our watchful eyes..

A shame to put it like that, but its fact..

It actually is as simple as that. Haters gonna hate.


However hell hath no fury as the bitter vet scorned. WiS lover's hate pales in comparasion so they don't even register on the markers.

oh lol.


Are all the WiS people whom are complaining the ones stuck out in 0.0 that dont undock because theres an AFK cloakey in system - or they're space is being assaulted and they're too scared to step outside - thus want WiS so they have something ot do rather than ship spinning while their docked?


You do realise - the reason why the entire station enviroment wasnt released - wasnt because they havent finished designing it - its moreso they havent optimised their "Carbon Code" yet. At current - more than 10 other players in a room will make even the dev's fancy supermachines lag out and crash.


How about yall undock and play the game, and let CCP do what they should have done all along?

Priority #1) Fix the undocked game enviroment - thats hwere 90% of the players now, thats where 99% of the bugs, and balancing issues are - becuase of this - it needs immediate attention

Priority #2) Optimise Carbon Code and station enviroment - release it when its READY - not rushed and half arsed like they did with the initial launch



K? Thx? Bai!

Read some Dev Blogs and educate yourself before making stupid comments.

CCP has come this far with their own judgement, TBH i hope they stick with their own judgement in the future.

After the NeX bullshit (mostly bullshit on the player's side) i think they're trying to bring some love back by giving us an oldschool internet spaceships expansion that everyone's loved in the past.

I really dont want this to be the death of incarna though, Hilmar's wording seems to leave the possibility open for more incarna, and judging by CCP's past expansions im sure they'll come back around to it a few more times at least, in the future

The idea of the company bringing full focus back to eve and its action is awesome. I think it would be awesome for CCP to run other games as well though. Their technologies could be adapted and even completely added into eve as those other games pass, and eve lives on. I truely believe eve will be here in 10 years, with graphics still competing (Imagine after PS3 dies they add Dust as an expansion to eve?)

Eve has always been the best internet spaceships, despite all the recent attempts to steal CCP's market, eve remains the best just due to i the fact the have SO many things going on, so many different gameplay styles available, and the hardcore fleedom and brutality of a cold and unforgiving universe.. This complexity unfortunately is also the reason patches like incarna and PI get placed on the backburner.