EVE New Citizens Q&A

I'm brand new so please forgive my newbness.

I'm heading towards pvp and do not want to be a professional miner but quite often I'm at my computer but doing work on my secondary computer. I'm thinking it would be great to have some mining lasers pulling in some isk for me while my attention is diverted. I read the advanced mining guide in the evelopedia and it sounds like I should head towards a Rokh Battleship instead of specializing in the dedicated miners? Will this be a problem because of a small cargo bay and the need to constantly swap ore to a jettisoned can?

Basically, what ship should i train to mine in for a attention diverted, highsec i guess, mining skill point limited player? Icould spend some time training mining specific skills eventually but not interested in just training mining for over a month.

Just my own opinion, but unless you've got a dedicated mining/industry alt then you're going to need to learn that stuff yourself or join a corp/alliance with a free ship program. PvP is an expensive hobby, and being able to replace your own losses - heck, even just being able to make your own ammo - is something that will, ever time, have serious effects on your ability to be an effective PvPer... or at least one that isn't perpetually bankrupt.

Not just talking skill points, either. If you have to stop everything you're doing to grind ISK from missions (or whatever) every time you need to replace a ship then that is less time you're spending practicing your PvP skills. Yes, mining and building take time too, but until you're able to do high level/high pay missions then doing it yourself will be the less time-consuming option (any halfway decent industrialist can crank out a dozen destroyers a day, with fittings - try to do that with payouts from L1 and L2 missions sometime and you'll see the problem).

Now once you get skilled enough to blaze through high level missions with fat payouts, then you can feed your PvP habit with buckets of raw ISK instead. And by all means, do so. The RAEC and our ship building brethren will be more than happy to take your money.

It sounds like the Evelopedia mining guide needs a lot of updating - the updated mining barges are now much more viable for mining.

For a character who is doing mining as a side job, your target would probably be either a Procurer or a Retriever; both have fairly sizable ore holds. The Retriever has a hold the size of a jet can if you're fully skilled in Mining Barges, and not far off even if you stop skilling up Mining Barges, and can have its mining lasers boosted to a healthy degree, but has weak defenses; the Procurer has a smaller ore hold, but better potential defenses against suicide gankers. Either will allow you to loiter in a belt for a reasonable time before returning to station to empty your hold, without worrying about jet cans.

(The Covetor barge can get more raw yield, but has a smaller hold, and is more for fleet-based operations.)

ETA: sorry if this is repeated from the above; I was slow to respond.)

That depends on how high the buy orders for unrefined ore are. Sometimes the people who put them up use a very low price.

You want Refining to 4, which can be done in less than a week, and then as a second training session, Refining to 5 and Refinery Efficiency to 4.

You also want higher standings with the station where you are refining, which involves training the Connections skill to 3-4 (can be done in a week) and doing a few missions for the NPC corporation that owns the station (it may take a LONG time to see a real reduction in the "what we take" columns).

Before you sell that ore, check how much you could sell the minerals for. Even if you're losing a percentage to the refining, it might not be enough of a percentage to make selling the ore instead worthwhile. Just try refining it but don't accept the quote to see the numbers you'll get back.