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How to Destroy the Universe for Dummies

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TharOkha
0asis Group
#21 - 2012-12-12 06:06:55 UTC  |  Edited by: TharOkha
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Sentamon wrote:
If 2 Avatars collided in EVE they would bounce off without a sound like 2 rubber duckies.


Sad but true. Real collision physics would make freighter/mining/whatever bumping basically suicide.


Actualy it would probably look like this

Lugia3 wrote:

If an Avatar titan collided with a stationary object at full warp speed (1.5 AU/s) it would release 86,034,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 joules (86 Nonillion joules).


Isnt object in warp buble stationary? What moves is spacetime itself. Thus maximum energy of titan is "only" at light speed

Lugia3 wrote:

Extinction level event? That is a massive understatement.
The energy released is on par with a supernova explosion; say 'baibai' to the solar system.

Averange energy of supernova is arround 10 ^44 J.... say "baibai" to all neighbourd solar systems in 30LY range Blink
Sriracha Nighthawk
Perkone
Caldari State
#22 - 2012-12-12 06:21:45 UTC
Lugia3 wrote:
Avatar Titan:

Mass: 2,278,125,000 kg
Approximate Size: 13km long
Approximate Head Size: 2.6km tall

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If an Avatar titan bumped you at full speed, 75 m/s, you would receive 6,407,200,000,015 joules (6.4 trillion joules).

If an Avatar titan bounced off an EVE sun and hit a stationary ship while going 20,000 km/s, 455,620,000,000,000,000,000,000 joules (455.6 Sextillion Joules) are released.

If an Avatar titan collided with a stationary object at light speed (299,792,458 m/s) it would release 204,740,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 joules (204.7 Septillion joules).

If an Avatar titan collided with a stationary object at full warp speed (1.5 AU/s) it would release 86,034,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 joules (86 Nonillion joules).

There goes the neighborhood. Cool


I found this oddly interesting.

"Kind of like the Caldari version of Adama I guess." -Kairavi Mrithyakara

Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-12-12 08:05:08 UTC
Lugia3 wrote:
Darwins Hammer wrote:
So we know that if a titan hit the earth at warp speed it would be an extinction level event wiping out all life down to bacteria


Extinction level event? That is a massive understatement.

The energy released is on par with a supernova explosion; say 'baibai' to the solar system.


So...can you calculate how big an airbag for earth would need to be to let it survive the avatar-collision?

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2012-12-12 08:09:05 UTC
Titan can't hit anything at warp speed due to space magic that makes ships in warp go through ****

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny

ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#25 - 2012-12-12 08:11:39 UTC
M1k3y Koontz wrote:
Galaxy Pig wrote:
Okay, what if TWO Avatar class Titans collide with Jesus at c^2 velocity while someone on the nose of the ship shines a flashlight straight ahead?


I laughed at that...



That means Sir Issac Newton is the deadliest son of a b**** in space!

And that is why we do not 'eyeball' it!

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.

Mara Tessidar
Perkone
Caldari State
#26 - 2012-12-12 08:14:13 UTC
Actually, as your speed increases and approaches that of light, so does the energy required to propel you forward--disproportionately so. But you can never quite accelerate that fast despite pushing harder and harder, and thus the energy necessary to move at the speed of light is infinite.
Mara Tessidar
Perkone
Caldari State
#27 - 2012-12-12 08:14:34 UTC
But hey my spaceship behaves as if in a fluid so vOv
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#28 - 2012-12-12 08:31:05 UTC
Mara Tessidar wrote:
Actually, as your speed increases and approaches that of light, so does the energy required to propel you forward--disproportionately so. But you can never quite accelerate that fast despite pushing harder and harder, and thus the energy necessary to move at the speed of light is infinite.



Phhh...
Theory of relativity is just a bunch of lies straight from the pits of hell.
Show me only one passage in the bible where it says that you cannot have bigass spaceships...

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.

TharOkha
0asis Group
#29 - 2012-12-12 08:46:46 UTC  |  Edited by: TharOkha
Mara Tessidar wrote:
Actually, as your speed increases and approaches that of light, so does the energy required to propel you forward--disproportionately so. But you can never quite accelerate that fast despite pushing harder and harder, and thus the energy necessary to move at the speed of light is infinite.


Thats true, but you are talking about "energy required to propel to speed of light " while this debate is about energy released of titan impact moving at the speed of light. According Enstein equation E=m*c(squared) maximum mass-energy of titan would be

2,278,125,000,000*299 792 458(squared)=204,747,664,155,981,268,612,500,000,000 J = 204,7x10^27 J.

Thats aproximately 6x kinetic energy of the moon (at its current speed relative to earth).
or 1,000,000,000,000x magnitude of Tsar bomb (50MT).

of course all this is jus theoretical mass-energy of whole titan. In speak of kinetic energy and energy released on impact, you need 1/2 all those equations. (kinetic energy = 1/2*m*v(squared)


aka... we would be f....ed. up Big smile
Yim Sei
Ontogenic Achronycal PLC
#30 - 2012-12-12 08:57:05 UTC
iskflakes wrote:
Lugia3 wrote:

If an Avatar titan collided with a stationary object at light speed (299,792,458 m/s) it would release 204,740,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 joules (204.7 Septillion joules).

If an Avatar titan collided with a stationary object at full warp speed (1.5 AU/s) it would release 86,034,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 joules (86 Nonillion joules).


Looks like somebody forgot to correct for relativity....

This whole discussion is pointless anyway. EVE has never had realistic physics and probably never will.



lol I read this in the voice of Marvin the paranoid android

Post with my main? This is my main - I just overtrain and overplay my alts.

Schalac
Apocalypse Reign
#31 - 2012-12-12 09:09:52 UTC
Ptraci wrote:
Now calculate how many G's an interceptor pilot is pulling when he orbits you at about 2000m going 5000m/s...

The pod goo has a negative effect on g force thereby canceling out and sense of movement.

SCHALAC HAS SPOKEN!! http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schalac

Sentient Blade
Crisis Atmosphere
Coalition of the Unfortunate
#32 - 2012-12-12 09:12:49 UTC
TharOkha wrote:
aka... we would be f....ed. up Big smile


Well, at that speed even a speck of dust would hit it with such an unimaginable amount of energy that your titan would be vapourised before it moved an inch, destroying everything within the solar system in a matter of minutes.
Marcus Harikari
#33 - 2012-12-12 10:18:34 UTC
lol
TharOkha
0asis Group
#34 - 2012-12-12 10:49:44 UTC
Sentient Blade wrote:
TharOkha wrote:
aka... we would be f....ed. up Big smile


Well, at that speed even a speck of dust would hit it with such an unimaginable amount of energy that your titan would be vapourised before it moved an inch, destroying everything within the solar system in a matter of minutes.


Well, lets calculate :) . speck of dust is aprox=0.000001 grams

1/2*m*sqr(v)= 44,937,758,936 J = energy of couple lightning bolts...

I dont think that would destroy Titan at all.
Uwara
The Ares project
#35 - 2012-12-12 10:56:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Uwara
I wonder how many titans are needed to DD the sun and cause a supernova?
And if it was possible, how empty null would really get :)

Would bring a completely new strategy into a game, cant hold sov? DD the sun and screw it.

Won a G510 keyboard in AT-X on  21.07.2012. Still not delivered, CCP keeps quiet. Customer support needs a raise.

Estheria Quintessimo
Mechanical Eagles Inc.
#36 - 2012-12-12 10:57:27 UTC
I sure hope they tested these Titans with crashtest dummies ...

If I ever get one ... I'm sure I'll ask for luxery items in my cockpit ... such as airbags. Roll

Neque femina amissa pudicitia alia abnuerit.

Mr Pragmatic
#37 - 2012-12-12 11:17:29 UTC
http://memegenerator.net/instance/31742283

Super cali hella yolo swaga dopeness.  -Yoloswaggins, in the fellowship of the bling.

Pallas Kysalle
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2012-12-12 11:19:05 UTC
Uwara wrote:
I wonder how many titans are needed to DD the sun and cause a supernova?
And if it was possible, how empty null would really get :)

Would bring a completely new strategy into a game, cant hold sov? DD the sun and screw it.


Granted, but then to counter the rapid decline of light bulbs and surrounding tissue, some sort of Genesis module to create new ones would be necessary. I hate flying in the dark.
Uwara
The Ares project
#39 - 2012-12-12 11:41:17 UTC
Pallas Kysalle wrote:
Uwara wrote:
I wonder how many titans are needed to DD the sun and cause a supernova?
And if it was possible, how empty null would really get :)

Would bring a completely new strategy into a game, cant hold sov? DD the sun and screw it.


Granted, but then to counter the rapid decline of light bulbs and surrounding tissue, some sort of Genesis module to create new ones would be necessary. I hate flying in the dark.


Most of the ships have blinking lights.... its a wonder we have any cap left at all.

Won a G510 keyboard in AT-X on  21.07.2012. Still not delivered, CCP keeps quiet. Customer support needs a raise.

M1k3y Koontz
House of Musashi
Stay Feral
#40 - 2012-12-12 11:42:58 UTC
Raiz Nhell wrote:
What would happen if Chuck Norris was to punch a Avatar...


12/21/12

That's what the Myans predicted! Shocked

How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp.