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I rejoined EVE because of Incarna, and now they're taking it away?!?
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Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
#61 - 2011-10-22 17:47:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Aidan Brooder
mkint wrote:
Aidan Brooder wrote:
mkint wrote:
I say it over and over again... if you joined a game for wiggly little legs that doesn't have wiggly little legs, you joined the wrong game. Who's fault is that? Second Life is thadaway --->


You should learn to read better. I and many others joined this game exactly for what it had to offer. Excellent spaceship simulation. That was years ago and I still find new stuff in space to do.

We were looking forward to a new feature which was advertised heavily in addition to that. I will not leave the game, but I will laugh me arse off when it turns out that winter expansion will be a small package for FiS, too, and oh-so wordy "go to second life barbies" idiots like you whine again.

Or do I call you and the alliance blobsters "Blue Blobopaths" and tell you that Black Prophecy is that way --> every time I post? I limit myself to every second time. Smile


You're right... I think I'll buy the new Oblivion game for the Invasion of Normandy level. I hope I'm not disappointed. Roll


I don't know... Oblivion has trolls in it I think. You could find a mate & found a family!
Then move to Normandy. It is nice there.

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Infinimo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#62 - 2011-10-22 18:13:27 UTC
people unironically care about WiS more than FiS?

Theta Squad best squad. Monocle crew represent~
URDEAD2ME
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#63 - 2011-10-22 18:17:04 UTC
you should go play swtor when it comes out if your that pissed about no WiS this is now getting back to where it should be all about the FiS .
Euasked
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#64 - 2011-10-22 18:26:34 UTC
So basically you contribute nothing meaningful to the eve community but you are mad you cant play dress-up? You wont be missed.
Euasked
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#65 - 2011-10-22 18:28:47 UTC
Severian Carnifex wrote:
say thnx to 20 ppl on forums with megaphones that were louder then all the rest of player base that play the game... Evil



How stupid and delusional can you be? They ignored the forum rage completely and only made a change of face when they felt the rage in their wallets...get a clue.
Jhagiti Tyran
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#66 - 2011-10-22 19:02:44 UTC
Bless's Minion wrote:
Fail Incarna Launch ->
people in favor/neutral to WiS stay quiet (majority)
people who dislike WiS make a lot of noise, now having legit arguments. (minority)


How do you know which side was in the majority? If there are some stats about this I would genuinely interested in seeing them. However I think the truth is very different to the opinion you have posted here. The speed CCP reintroduced the hanger with and Hilmars multiple public apologies show that CCP realised the reception of Incarna, CQs and cash shop was poor.

If people supporting it where in the majority as you claim CCP would not be taking such swift and decisive action.
Lindt Elgorriaga
Chocolate latex and leather Social Club
#67 - 2011-10-22 19:08:02 UTC
Aidan Brooder wrote:
mkint wrote:
I say it over and over again... if you joined a game for wiggly little legs that doesn't have wiggly little legs, you joined the wrong game. Who's fault is that? Second Life is thadaway --->


You should learn to read better. I and many others joined this game exactly for what it had to offer. Excellent spaceship simulation. That was years ago and I still find new stuff in space to do.

We were looking forward to a new feature which was advertised heavily in addition to that. I will not leave the game, but I will laugh me arse off when it turns out that winter expansion will be a small package for FiS, too, and oh-so wordy "go to second life barbies" idiots like you whine again.

Or do I call you and the alliance blobsters "Blue Blobopaths" and tell you that Black Prophecy is that way --> every time I post? I limit myself to every second time. Smile


This is a good point. In fact, apart from fixes, FiS will NEVER get to satified evrybody.
Balance is nerf, low and null are that way because of players ,
people will complain again and again for the changes, and so the rest...

Too much space whiners here , and biased opinions. the danger for CCP here is going a suposed path wanted for
players, that is wanted only for a sheeped group that can go out any momet their leader get bored of EvE or
get interested in manipulate another game

i'm not specially interested in Incarna, but also it could brint interesting yhings to an awesome game i've been playing for years.
what it was in times of war between ascendant and bob, is dificult to bring back, not because of thr game, but because
of players

Don't consider chocolate as a substitute of sex, consider it as a different pleasure... ...but that won't prevent you from being a pervert
Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#68 - 2011-10-22 19:12:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Kengutsi Akira
We should really stop calling it FiS

Dammit there is no FiS its Called EVE. Especially now that WiS is "back burnere"ed

my new sig lol

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes
draconothese
Independant Celestial Enterprises
#69 - 2011-10-22 19:19:47 UTC
this is a troll post right XD
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#70 - 2011-10-22 19:40:33 UTC
I don't know if we were ever going to get true WiS since it's obvious now how dependent it was on WoD being a viable product for CCP. The current state seems to indicate that WiS was purely a test platform for aspects of WoD. So, how committed was CCP to the development of a functional and purposeful WiS for Eve? Somehow, I don't think there was any commitment beyond facilitating WoD.

Don't ban me, bro!
Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#71 - 2011-10-22 19:51:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Kengutsi Akira
Mr Kidd wrote:
I don't know if we were ever going to get true WiS since it's obvious now how dependent it was on WoD being a viable product for CCP. The current state seems to indicate that WiS was purely a test platform for aspects of WoD. So, how committed was CCP to the development of a functional and purposeful WiS for Eve? Somehow, I don't think there was any commitment beyond facilitating WoD.



Far more indicates WiS was a testbed for WoD:

http://www.wodnews.net/Home/tabid/41/ctl/ArticleView/mid/401/articleId/69/New-WoD-MMO-info-from-The-Grand-Masquerade.aspx

Quote:
Incarna is actually considered a prototype, the rendering engine that will ship with the MMO will be much more advanced.


They straight admit to the WoD people that Incarna is a PROTOTYPE
And reassure them that WoD will ship with a BETTER engine lol

Theres no "maybe" "possibly" or ANY kind of speculation here

And its funny how now that WoD is essentially shelved, they see no reason to continue with WiS

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes
Bless's Minion
DuckPus Fightclub
#72 - 2011-10-22 20:16:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Bless's Minion
This is just turning into play-style wars.

I really doubt there are many people who like WiS and hate FiS, but there sure do seem to be a lot of people who like FiS and hate WiS. CCP wanted to create the "ultimate sci-fi simulation" to appeal to people with different playstyles in order to expand their player base, and FiS people just couldn't handle that.

FiS is still the core of EVE, no one is saying that isn't still important!

But saying that people who joined the game for Incarna joined for the wrong reasons is just stupidity/trolling. CCP made Incarna and its concepts look cool, people subscribed because of that, and now both the FiS players and CCP(!?!) are telling those people to get lost. New players are now going to start the game in a feature that looks really cool but was essentially abandoned. What kind of company would think this is the right decision? Do they just not have the ability to see long-term?

WiS is part of EVE now, like it or not. Only adding the other CQs will not help anything, CCP even said that Incarna won't fit with EVE until it is multiplayer. All people are asking for is for CCP to not go back on their promises, not too much to ask considering all of the foundations are already in place, and their WiS player base is established.......for now.

This is a time-sensitive subject! If CCP doesn't make the right decision soon, this game is going to blow up in their collective faces!.....again!
Flamespar
WarRavens
#73 - 2011-10-22 20:47:44 UTC
Aquila Draco wrote:
i am afraid that CCP dont understand some things...
1st. Drop of player numbers is not because WIS... its about CCPs promises they are giving and not keeping
2nd. Expansion that you dont deliver is not expansion and its not guilty for bad things that happen, its broken promise guilty
3rd. Many ppl are expecting WiS for years... you say no... they are not happy at all...
4th. Many ppl that like FiS are not happy if you use development for NOTHING AT ALL... they would not be angry if they see results of that...
5th. Its not smart to get angry one group of ppl... and then the other... you will have one more drop in players then... only ppl that will stay will be that part of playerbase that dont give a damn about future...


Well put.

Still waiting for blue bars on this topic. Anyone else finding it interesting how devs are so active on other topic, but this one seems a bit off limits.

Enquiring minds are wondering why
Jovan Geldon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#74 - 2011-10-22 21:09:46 UTC
Incarna can **** off, and so can you. This game is about internet spaceships and nothing else.
Vinterthorn
Mostly Harmless Mining Corp
#75 - 2011-10-23 02:02:17 UTC
Jovan Geldon wrote:
Incarna can **** off, and so can you. This game is about internet spaceships and nothing else.


Normally, I confine myself to reading on the forums only, but sorry, THIS is the kind of mindset that scares people off.
What you're doing is just like saying "everyone who just wants to mine and stay in high-sec , plz **** off", griefing the
**** out of people just because of their very much subjective choice of a playing style. And in my view, scaring people
off is quite counterproductive to the principles of a MMO.

And, tbh, if you want a game that really is just about spaceships, it is YOU who's wrong in EVE, as there's loads of
other games, that will give you just this, and only this. Without new ideas and progress over a cpl of years.

A game like EVE, however, can only thrive from supporting player interaction, if it is done right.
Large Collidable Object
morons.
#76 - 2011-10-23 02:16:04 UTC
Vinterthorn wrote:


And, tbh, if you want a game that really is just about spaceships, it is YOU who's wrong in EVE, as there's loads of
other games, that will give you just this, and only this.




I thought I was following the MMO market quite closely, but I must have missed the other single shard, time based training spaceship MMOs outthere.

Care to elaborate?
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
Azahni Vah'nos
Vah'nos Family
#77 - 2011-10-23 02:22:28 UTC
Vinterthorn wrote:
Jovan Geldon wrote:
Incarna can **** off, and so can you. This game is about internet spaceships and nothing else.


Normally, I confine myself to reading on the forums only, but sorry, THIS is the kind of mindset that scares people off.
What you're doing is just like saying "everyone who just wants to mine and stay in high-sec , plz **** off", griefing the
**** out of people just because of their very much subjective choice of a playing style. And in my view, scaring people
off is quite counterproductive to the principles of a MMO.

And, tbh, if you want a game that really is just about spaceships, it is YOU who's wrong in EVE, as there's loads of
other games, that will give you just this, and only this. Without new ideas and progress over a cpl of years.

A game like EVE, however, can only thrive from supporting player interaction, if it is done right.


Hang on a second, so your saying that people should be able to choose their playstyle in a sandbox game ... pure heresy I say.

Why would anyone want to have less features rather than more in EVE. More sand in the sandbox, not less.

Nex (Cash Shop) / Aurum - removing sand from the sandbox since Incarna. Currently the only use for aurum is to buy virtual items in the in-game store, but Cockerill expects to expand its uses in the future.

Gael Itrus
Aethernity
#78 - 2011-10-23 02:56:19 UTC
Of course we have two years of neglected spaceships, so I'm not opposed to an expansion devoted to that. It's the core of this game that pays the bills, and if it needs love that should be priority.

The issue here is CCP's antipodal approach to development. It's just EVE Online, not FiS or WiS or whatever, so why are resources being concentrated on one or the other. You shaft the PVP folks by ignoring their gameplay for two years, then you shaft the ambulation guys by going nova and indefinitely suspending development when your subs drop.

Making bots legal and removing high sec missions should just about finish the job
Gealbhan
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#79 - 2011-10-23 03:00:08 UTC
What can I say? The playerbase are like children. They'd rather play with the box (ship spinning) than the toy (WiS). Way of New Eden.
Lateris
#80 - 2011-10-23 03:00:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Lateris
I think it is kind of funny to call CQ's a failure. I support it. I don't support the vanity store. Players should be able to craft and sale clothes. And ranting kung FU statements are utterly childish- one should consider being banned. The game will evolve even pass our mentality levels whether we like it or not. Ships will always be the focus...sheesh- away with your lasers. Another fine chance for a community to receive new content in Eve Online squashed by the square pegs.

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