Warfare & Tactics

So I almost got in a fight with one of the new destroyers tonight and as I was contemplating engaging I was considering how I possibly would. I wouldn't think twice against one of the old ones, it'd be a good fight and I'd stand a good chance of winning.

So what would be a good strategy?

What I came up with was to arty fit, and burn at 15+ to make sure not to get webbed and to hold the speed to surpass explosion velocity. Speed is all there is against rockets and missiles, no?

As it was I got painted at 50k and was taking some serious **** before I fled.

sas but true ...

Destroyers are made for killing frigates, therefore it is usually suicide to engage a destroyer solo in a frigate. There are however two exceptions:
a) Destroyer is short range turret and you are long range kiter
b) Destroyer is long range turret and you are short range, web, scram, TD, AB brawler.

Actually a Rifter is the perfect bait ship. Make a brawl fit, sit at warpout in plex and le voila probably killmail because everyone underestimates you. Rifter is still a good ship and people only whine about it because it isn´t the uber ship any more.

@Cynthia Nezmor: I have really no idea what your problem exactly is... but yes, basically with luck you can kill a destroyer even with a noob ship or a stealth bomber (me did this some long time ago). But when saying this then you should at least tell the truth that chances are against you, but as everywhere in EVE they are not zero and sometimes luck is on your side.

I used to fly that sort of fit to kill destroyers. I don't remember if that was before or after the dessie boost. I had a snakes back then and it was still hard because, dps was crap so even if you had someone it was hard to kill them before friends would show up, and you would have cap issues, and flying the mwd rifter was sort of like driving a crotch rocket on ice.

It won't work against rockets or drone boats.

Although I do agree it is nice to be able to take on dessies in a t1 frigate because you can find allot more fights. When I do this I tend to rely on the fact that all dessies seem to fit mwds. So I fit a scram ab and td. You have to be cognizant of the guns. If its a coercer, I always tend to try to get close to orbit at 500 with tracking script and close ammo.

If its a corm I tend to assume rails and try to go in close same as coercer. If its a thrasher or catalyst I assume close range and put in the long range script until I learn different. If the dessie is short range turret and you have an optimal script in orbit at about 6500 and have guns that can hit well at 7k or so you will get some kills. Small rails work well. (use javelin if you need to orbit close the larger sig radius of the dessie means you will still land more hits and cary some standard drop to help you) Probably autos with barrage will work well if you have a falloff bonus.

Like I said I was using snakes when I would do this and I would still lose allot of ships. But it will greatly increase the number of fights you can get if you can fit to fight destroyers. If destroyers ever start fitting abs this will no longer work.

I really want to send this post to two years ago and watch the rage.

I find that egregiously untrue. The Talwar can be fit very similarly to the classic shield AC Thrasher while getting nearly identical stats, a smaller sig, and a more flexible weapon system. The Algos also gets more tank and gank when fit for brawling than an AC Thrasher.

Of course, if you don't believe me I will happily link some fits to show you or we can simply rendezvous for a 1v1

I've similarly found the Corax to be a waste of time and ISK.

Read that as the Buff coercer is a small flying object of doom that projects a sphere of unavoidable laser death all around it... >_>