EVE General Discussion

you say this as if its a bad thing...

need to boost armor tanking

all those dead ships and not one ecm drone or bb?

ffs...

Ya know, I once flew a mission with a guy flying an Navy Apocalypse with mad armor tank abilities. It was very impressive... at least up to the point where his tank started to fail and he had to warp out to make repairs.

Meanwhile, my shield tanked Myrmidon stayed behind and soaked 100% of the aggo until he could make it back several minutes later. It was pretty rough - I got knocked down to barely 75% shield by the time he got back! This was, up until then, unheard of.

But that was PvE... the general consensus for PvPers is that armor tanking is the way to go. PvE though? Shield tank > Armor tank, hands down.

Look, that armor repair module may look nice until you break everything down to a second-by-second pile of math. Let's say that I've got a shield tank Gila that can heal 200 points of shield per second, passive (and I do). Now let's say that someone else has a armor repair module that can heal 800 points per cycle. Looks like armor repair is cooler, so long as they can handle the battery drain, right? But then look at the cycle times... is it 10 seconds long? Opps - looks like his repair rate is actually only 80 points per second... and he's wasting his battery to do it. Shield tank wins the argument.

Yes, you shield boat has a higher sig and missiles blah blah blah. So what? If they can't hurt you then it doesn't matter how often they hit you. Plus there is the basic "general safety" issue - meaning that if your shield tank fails, you have until your armor dies to warp out. If your armor tank fails, you're basically toast because everyone knows that whenever your down to hull the game always experiences a sudden & mysterious burst of lag that keeps you from warping out in time. So when the poop hits the fan, it's a question of "repair ship" or "buy a new one."

Again, I'm only talking about PvE, not PvP, so spare me your PvP arguments because I'm actually agreeing with you in that area. I've seen enough active tank done in PvP to see that it works there. Just talking about missions running here. Go with shields, kids. It's easier, safer, costs less and won't suck down your battery.

Addendum: The battery issue especially important for Amarr ships using lasers. Why on earth CCP thought it would be a good idea to make a race that is so helplessly dependent on batteries for their weapons also have to depend on that same already stressed-out battery to defend their ships with armor tanking is beyond me. Actually, I take that back. I was assuming that they honestly believed it was a good idea. From the people who brought you the Amarr drone destroyer in the same patch that killed drone use... yeah, thanks for nothing CCP.

Lol @ local chat.... go to about 6:00 in and read local.

"throw more ships at it"


MOAR SHIPS!!!

active tank myrmidon works pretty well

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No lessen to these fools, more people need to use this horrible fits I'm guessing they avoid any ship that can fit a nute.

No.

If your armor drops despite your repper running at full load you know at 95% armor that you will need to leave.
On the other hand you won't know if your PST can soak up all that damage until it's close to being broken - which means most of your buffer is gone already and your in for a ride down a steep slope.

And that measly bit of armor most shield ships have is gone in the blink of an eye - it's not a safety net worth mentioning.

Anyhow, if you let it come this far you deserve to pop - doesn't matter if armor or shield tanked.

Talking PVE of course...

I guess it's a good thing nobody uses PST in PVP.

Like all those maelstroms? Also you aint gonna alpha a vindicator without an entire gang, AND even if he couldn't break you he could just jump through the gate.