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Lazarus Jaeol
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-12-11 21:14:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Lazarus Jaeol
Do any corporations that you know of run something like this? I am a new player so I really don't grasp much, but is this possible in Eve? I was thinking about it on my drive home and I quite like the idea of pvper's patrolling an area and killing anyone that doesn't pay or anyone that threatens those who have paid.


Probably not in the right forum so I apologize in advance. I also apologize if this is a dumb question.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#2 - 2012-12-11 21:22:19 UTC
Isnt that lowsec?

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Lazarus Jaeol
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-12-11 21:24:48 UTC
I was under the impression most of low security space is a FFA. Kind of like an area with more predators than prey with only small forays by "Anti-Pirates". My idea was more of Pirates that protect system locals for a fee, while preying on anyone else.
Big Gord
Independent Union of Hek
#4 - 2012-12-11 22:00:31 UTC
That actually sounds like nul-sec. People pay corps to use their systems for mining, ratting, etc.
Lazarus Jaeol
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-12-11 22:02:30 UTC
Oh cool.
Big Gord
Independent Union of Hek
#6 - 2012-12-11 22:15:01 UTC
Not that your idea couldn't happen. The only thing is lowsec is kinda like the wild west. The 'locals' are pirates and pvpers who blow up anything that moves. They wouldn't pay other pirates for protection.

If a pirate corp did take solid control of a lowsec system, I imagine they could entice missioners and industrial players to come and enjoy the system for a price. But at the same time, lowsec is hard to control.
Lazarus Jaeol
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-12-11 22:17:09 UTC
What makes it harder to control than 0.0?
GreenSeed
#8 - 2012-12-11 23:44:01 UTC
Lazarus Jaeol wrote:
What makes it harder to control than 0.0?



mainly gates that cant be bubbled, some alliances can lock out certain regions by bubbling a few gates. ofc blops and offlined alts cant still light cynos inside, but that gives plenty of warning.


anyway, yeah i guess i share the feeling that lowsec is just wasted space, people just don't do anything but kill each other, not much room for development. not that there are many riches in lowsec anyway.
Lazarus Jaeol
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-12-12 00:06:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Lazarus Jaeol
Oh, I guess that makes sense enabling them to control the entries and exits would make things a lot easier.

Once I figure out how to be self-sufficient I'll be making a jump into at least low security as the crafting portion of Eve gives me the impression that it is math skill intensive and seems to require more free market savviness than I possess.


Thank you everyone that responded for taking the time. Knowing is half the battle and all that.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-12-12 00:15:42 UTC
In Python we always welcomed miners and missioners to Egghelende Bear

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Lazarus Jaeol
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-12-12 00:24:56 UTC
Something tells me not to trust that, a combination of smiley with horns, and nefarious look and name. Blame it on newbie intuition. -insert shifty eyes-
Anemonae Ambrosia
Royal Order of Security Specialists
#12 - 2012-12-12 02:46:28 UTC
Lazarus Jaeol wrote:
I was under the impression most of low security space is a FFA. Kind of like an area with more predators than prey with only small forays by "Anti-Pirates". My idea was more of Pirates that protect system locals for a fee, while preying on anyone else.


This definitely happens. There are several Russian alliances that claim certain low sec areas as "theirs" and will provide protection for a price. Though due to game mechanics protection boils down to them setting you blue, allowing you to anchor a POS and them responding to defend you POS if attacked. They can't protect you in all things just due to the nature of the game.
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#13 - 2012-12-12 03:34:41 UTC
I played another game where we 'taxed' all who entered. And gave them 24 hours to make ISK, interact with agents, whatever. It was a really fun format, but it isn't that easy to enforce in EVE.
Lazarus Jaeol
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2012-12-12 03:43:38 UTC
It does seem like a fun dynamic, hell I'd be someone taxed and I think it would still be kinda cool. Who knows you can be anything in Eve maybe I'll get to do it one day haha....Thanks a lot for taking the time to indulge me.
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#15 - 2012-12-12 04:07:28 UTC
Lazarus Jaeol wrote:
Do any corporations that you know of run something like this? I am a new player so I really don't grasp much, but is this possible in Eve? I was thinking about it on my drive home and I quite like the idea of pvper's patrolling an area and killing anyone that doesn't pay or anyone that threatens those who have paid.


You have just summarized nullsec in it's entirety.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Samantha Utama
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-12-12 05:37:00 UTC
You mean like the Goon Mining Permit?
Jitalt Pirkibo
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-12-12 08:38:04 UTC
Also http://www.minerbumping.com/

Start reading on this here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=125025&p=1
It's a good read, so take a look.
Azirapheal
Hansa Mining og Industri
#18 - 2012-12-12 11:34:16 UTC
yes,

many pirate corps will have their "turf" or hunting grounds, and may enter into an agreement with individual mission runners or corporations for safe passage.

ID had an arrangement with the hauler wing of oxide to allow them through whenever they wanted, in exchange for free battleships and a low price per week, even klepto had a few players that really really wanted to run missions in that part of lowsec, and accepted payments.

otherwise what you are describing is the good old fashioned kill and ransom
Gangname Style
Doomheim
#19 - 2012-12-12 16:24:19 UTC
This is possible in maybe a dead end lowsec.

What you would do is camp a gate and leave scouts a couple systems out, then have people pay you to mine/rat the space and have an early detection system... maybe an intel channel or something.


Never heard of it being done but its possible.
Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#20 - 2012-12-12 19:52:10 UTC
The OPs idea is basically what renting in nullsec amounts to. The large sov holding alliances (who are NBSI) allow carebear alliances to inhabit their space and do their carebear thing for a fee. There is no difference between that and a protection racket, as the renters would otherwise be targets.

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