Warfare & Tactics

I can assure you, most players are very happy with current restrictions. Please note how it is always the same few people writing in these threads, do not believe they are representative.

D-scan 1st.

It takes a few seconds to do.

The Tristan can go into novice plexes. That is all you need in life.

This is some good advise. The new plex restrictions have their pluses and minuses. The pirate frigates are very expensive. But in general you should not fight them if you are in a t1 frigate. But you can take them on if you have say 2 t1 frigates. But it depends on fit and such. ( read: webs win against pirate frigates)

The destroyers and t2 frigates are indeed a cut above even pirate fritates. To attack them you should have 3 t1 frigates, unless you are specifically fit to take them on.

To be totally honest I did D-scanned the plex and I found the daredevil and an incursus. I though that the daredevil was out behind the plex and the incursus in it. I was wrong :D.
Anyway I don't mind the loss, one single plex give me more money in LP than the cost of a T1 frigate. What seem odd to me is that such powerful frigates are enabled in a rookie environment.
Now, if you really want to enable them in the novice plexes please let me warp in at 50 km, even at 30 km, to have a little chance to bail.
But it is just my opinion, so maybe it's best to leave to some rich man his easy kill :)

I think that the merlin and the tristan aren't suited to kill a 90% speed reducing webber, 200dps, 5k ehp daredevil. The railcomet could do it if is able to kite fast enough, but if it is webbed is history anyway.
There is always the human error, the experience of the pilot and luck... but an 80 million frigate is supposed to be superior to a 20 million isk faction/ T1

About direct warping you are right. It is an advantage and a disadvantage at the same time.

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Yeah must agree, a lot of the pirate frigs were left without a role and a bit underpowered after the dessie/AF buffs, I understand peoples frustration with them being allowed in novice plexes, but the fact some of these ships are relevant again is due to that.

The DD is the perfect counter for all the damn drams and hookbills running those plexes, Im having a blast blapping dramiels with this thing again :)

I do see your point, but I can also turn it against you. The daredevil is not only a perfect counter against those ships you name. A baster AB Daredevil sitting on the warp-in is a perfect counter to just about anything that could come in.
Yes, you could still get ganked in your 80mil frigate, but apart from that you're golden. The long warp-in range before was a problem because it gave an advantage to certain fits (and discouraged fights). The new system favours another type of fit, one in which the DD excels way more than any other ship.

"DD's aren't OP, all you need are a specifically fitted bait-ship followed by 5vs1 ods in your favor using specialized tactics to take him out."

Noted, the DD or any other faction frig is not overpowered, all it takes to kill them are massive preparation and superior numbers \o/

...and ofc, once the DD/pirate frig player sees the greater numbers on scanner he will leave to go find a smaller group/solo pilot that had not prepared a larger group just for his ship.

What if richer players operate in a small gang of 2-4 Faction frigs like 2 DD's and a pair of Dramiels? Bring 20 guys in T1 frigs to kill them?

So long as Faction frigs get into novice plexes they will slowly come to dominate them and eventually using T1 frigs in them becomes a waste fo time becasue you will need yor own faction frigs to hope to match them in fights they will accept.

On a side-note, pirate frigates are expensive because they are rather rare, if they could be built by players their costs would drop dramatically - there is nothing that states that pirate frigates need a special role or place - they just exist as the ships used by the pirate factions, nothing more, nothing less.