EVE General Discussion

I would say that it is only a vocal minority that complains about Hi Sec.
The following is about that vocal minority.

I would also say that the main reason many of them complain is because that they felt cheated because they were told that Null was the shiznit of all New Eden and they found that there isn't too many easy targets out there for them after awhile.

They found that they actually have to work to get on enough KMs to soothe their ego, because many of the players who are active out there are active out there because they have been able to survive to make it worth their while, so they don't get killed too often.

After a while they got bored. They then heard of this mistical place where players can play the game without too much interference from other players. Where they can mine and mission to their hearts content and actually enjoyed this.

This made the unhapply null dude sad, then he got angry. No one can enjoy this game if he can't. Besides, how can someone enjoy this PvP game by mainly doing PvE in this mistical somewhat safe place.

First the unhapply null dude tried to get CCP to change it so all the top Hi Sec stufff get moved to Low or Null. When that didn't happen the unhappy null dude decided if these Hi Sec "Carebears" won't come to them for the PvP he enjoys, then he will bring the PvP to them. That will change their ways.

Hence came the war on Hi Sec, until they come to their senses and go PvP in Null Sec so the unhappy null dude doen't have to work so hard to make his KB look so good.



Obviously it is far more complicated than this, but from my experiences in Null Alliances, Pirate Corps, and running missions myself; It is amazing how much of it can be boiled down to this uneasy truth.

Some players can not stand it when other players enjoy parts of this game that they do not, and will do all they can to destroy those other players enjoyment of the gameplay they chose to take part in. Seen it in the kindergarden sand box all too often and it is interesting how little things change.

Says the guy who is in a coalition, and trained to use capitals. Lets talk about how much effort it is for you.

Cynos really take most of the effort out of transporting things. Here I thought it was a game about effort.

First thing someone does when they join a coalition is figure out how to get their stuff down there. Is it through putting in the effort to jump through 40 gates through null? No, all it takes is 1 or 2 carrier jumps and you have all the stuffs moved.

Effort right?

I mean, since you have a carrier, you could just quit your alliance and go somewhere else. Undock, jump to lit cyno in lowsec and you can start your trek to the other side of the galaxy if you wanted too. So, less effort to leave null as well.

SP really helps in null. it factors on how much "effort" you have to put in.

Maybe Null isn't for me, for now, but that doesn't mean highsec isn't for me right now.

once you can use a carrier (for transport), the difficulty of living in null dramatically decreases.

Just because null isn't for someone, doesn't mean they shouldn't be playing Eve, that is a dumb and knee-jerk argument.

so what was your council of stellar null grand poobahs doing for half a decade

Depends on how long one has been playing the game. The longer you have played, the more you should be able to make.

A Hi Sec Vet should be able to make more than a Null Sec noob.

Well said.

you don know i have been in my alliance and coalition for like 3 weeks right?

i've been in several in the past, NCDot was the latest, Raiden before that, -A- (breifly) before that, IT (briefly) before that and my real null sec "career" started with Atlas (the original).

But what is your point? I had none of those things when I started playing in 2007. i WORKED for them, put in the time and effort, learned the game, shot MILLIONS of Red Xs a a mission runner then explorer, and now , after 5 years of in game effort I have some of what I want.

Just because YOU can't figure out how to do it means nothing for me. Nothing is preventing you from training for a carrier, or did ccp put a magical No-Caps lock on your account ???

i think the nullbear tears are more entertaining
half of these carebear victim OPs are probably trolling alts

Jenn aSide!!!...I do not know if you have kids...but if you do and if you are telling your kid to "knockoff" other kids that stay to long on a swing...expect him/her to eventually come home with a shinner or something....and that would be your fault .

Seriously...!

Says the mindless drone in IRC of all alliances.

You do realize IRC's leadership has the entire alliance designed to rake in loads of profit for themselves right? You are better off being a SOLAR pet than in IRC.

Maybe in your experiences, but I had to listen to such BS about the evils of the "Hi Sec carebear" from whinny Null Sec warriors on TS on many Alliance roams over the years.

I enjoy all parts of the game, Null Sec, Low Sec, and Hi Sec; but I can't stand it when people blame others for their lack of enjoyment of the game.

The whinny Null Sec Warrior is the worse offender in this regard at this time, in my opinion.

They are the ones who seem to want to force more players into Low and Null, by consistently trying to get content moved there from Hi Sec.