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Why Mine In HighSec?
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#141 - 2012-12-10 01:23:00 UTC
Zhade Lezte wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Malcanis wrote:

Oh right, it's just something you made up that doesn't need any evidence or examples
OK then.


Yes, more than half a decade of forums feedback don't convey the feelings. At all.


~MD Superstar~, eh?

To think you've criticized others for appealing to authority.


A couple of thousands posts created in the last years certainly passed completely unseen.

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SaKoil
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#142 - 2012-12-11 06:18:50 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Zhade Lezte wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Malcanis wrote:

Oh right, it's just something you made up that doesn't need any evidence or examples
OK then.


Yes, more than half a decade of forums feedback don't convey the feelings. At all.


~MD Superstar~, eh?

To think you've criticized others for appealing to authority.


A couple of thousands posts created in the last years certainly passed completely unseen.


Your ability of finding the Post-button is truly impressive and hammering it for thousands of times gives you a free pass to use logical fallacies as arguments.
Pitrolo Orti
Doomheim
#143 - 2012-12-11 06:31:14 UTC
Because it is easy and you can be AFK....Botssss

Price is what you pay. Value is what you get.
Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
#144 - 2012-12-11 06:32:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarvos Telesto
Some Rando wrote:
Turelus wrote:
So why?

Because anywhere other than high-sec, a miner must pay attention to the game.


Actualy not, miners in empire are more in danger than in null space, where big alliances directors alts mining in some 0.0 empty systems, i know mining got big boost , like no need to use jet cans, big ore bays, roles etc but people still hate miners, espetialy in empire area.

True story i was few month in c0ven alliance (long time ago), meny of pvprs just mining rare ores on alts like this one which may explode while mining, no idea how things went these days in this alliance, i dont blame them for it, just share with my view, everyone got ritgt to mining.

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SaKoil
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#145 - 2012-12-11 14:55:17 UTC
Tarvos Telesto wrote:
Some Rando wrote:
Turelus wrote:
So why?

Because anywhere other than high-sec, a miner must pay attention to the game.


Actualy not, miners in empire are more in danger than in null space, where big alliances directors alts mining in some 0.0 empty systems, i know mining got big boost , like no need to use jet cans, big ore bays, roles etc but people still hate miners, espetialy in empire area.


If it was a easier and safer, most AFK miners would be there. Alas, being in a 0.0 corporation usually requires some kind of social and organizational effort, and thus is unacceptable for any self-respecting bot-aspirant.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#146 - 2012-12-11 15:05:53 UTC
People mine in hisec because they have the misconception that hisec is safe, it's not, it's just safer than other places in Eve, though not by much.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Your Royal Highness
Doomheim
#147 - 2012-12-11 15:14:26 UTC
The nutters are all in lo-sec, null or the trade hubs. Which makes the rest of hi-sec a good place to settle down for a mining op.

We are not amused...
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#148 - 2012-12-11 15:17:48 UTC
Tarvos Telesto wrote:
Some Rando wrote:
Turelus wrote:
So why?

Because anywhere other than high-sec, a miner must pay attention to the game.


Actualy not, miners in empire are more in danger than in null space, where big alliances directors alts mining in some 0.0 empty systems, i know mining got big boost , like no need to use jet cans, big ore bays, roles etc but people still hate miners, espetialy in empire area.

True story i was few month in c0ven alliance (long time ago), meny of pvprs just mining rare ores on alts like this one which may explode while mining, no idea how things went these days in this alliance, i dont blame them for it, just share with my view, everyone got ritgt to mining.

Actually CCP just released stats that indicate you're full of it.

They're mining in high sec for exactly the reason you're trying to say they're not, and CCP even said themselves that the mining buffs in inferno resulted in MORE afk mining due to the increased safety of and AFK friendliness of the barges and exhumers.
Doddy
Excidium.
#149 - 2012-12-11 15:33:34 UTC
Aila Garris wrote:
There's a lot of reasons, most of which have been pointed out but I'll repeat because I'm like that:

1) Profit.


Tbh this is highly situational. 0.0 has all hi sec ores in massive quantities. So even mining exactly the same thing you will generally make more isk in null as;

a) less roid popping or empty belts
b) Rorqual bonuses,
c) can use hulk gangs with no worries about having to use cans (assuming you don't just mine into an orca anyway).
d) Supercap builders like not having to compress and move mins, so pay better on location.
e) less ship loss because of intel etc compared to random loss in hi sec.

The only downside to profit is mining time lost while enemy gangs or cloakies are around, which is why its situational.
Dun Bar
Baba Yagas
The Initiative.
#150 - 2012-12-11 15:42:30 UTC
High sec mining is for watching netflix