Ships & Modules

the original fit was 7 cruise launchers, 3 bcu, 1 x-large shield booster, 2 shield boost amplifiers, the rest to taste. bad... another lol

Meh, best mission ship is still the Machariel.

any solid reasons to call Domi the WORST other than drones get killed?

no matter what ship you have as soon as the drones launched they'll be killed. And Domi has double bonuses both hybrids/drones. So thechnically you can fit T2 Neutrons + mag stabbs and still have enough DPS plus throw cheap T1 drones so wouldn't worry about you loose it.

Anyway Domi is still one of the best machines to run missions with.

That's alot of work just to kill some frigs esp with cruise missiles, with the new drone mechanics at work you should primary frigs right away with your drones let them get close so that your drones are within instant return range and you should be just fine. We will need to adapt to using that extra drop down menu to show drone status (S/A/H) and pay attn to when frigs drop locks to switch to your drones 'cause I don't think CCP will change or alter the game mechanics of this just yet. On the other hand I wish they would do something about the Sansha TD's that's a true pain in the arse. Oh btw I did try Medium Drones and the frigs still target them so be advised.

I did a Stop the Thief deployed drones and they instantly popped about 3 but you know how many non-scram frigs are in that mission a lot so I left em alone

Oh man... that micro jump drive would be quite interesting on my Tach Apoc. I'm not sure it needs a tank at all anymore?

My Domi still works for me.....yeah, I lose more t1 lights now...but so what? They are cheap as popcorn.

He sounds like a troll - surely no CNR pilot is THAT bad?

The problem with the rokh in pve is the philosophy of hybrids and how well they don't mesh:
The base range on blasters is just too small to really benefit from the 50% bonus(and too much of blaster range comes from falloff) and rails have so much range to begin with you'll rarely ever NEED that range bonus to hit things in missions. To put it clearly:
A blaster rokh will not outdamage a blaster / sentry domi, at any range, and one with rails will only do extra damage past ~90km because the domi can't lock that far. The navy domi is pretty much the king of pve for hybrid users (as well as the vindi, though I would argue the domi's higher versatility makes it more useful)

It's also worth noting that pve ships are all about damage projection. You can survive in a l4 mission with a laughably small tank, and the only real way to measure the effectiveness of a pve ship is how much isk it brings in, which is determined mostly by how well it applies damage at the ranges required of it. Basically any kind of mission ship that relies on range to stay alive is going to do poorly, because you trade range for damage, and the conversion rate tends to be much worse than dropping a bit of damage for a little more tank.

I would say that hands down the most common mistake people make in pve is assuming they need more tank than they do. Once you learn how to fly and get the SP/ fits to back it up most lvl 4s can be done with almost no tank at all.

I would say that this is a rokh problem moreso than a hybrid problem, because my rail domi puts out more dps than my pulse nightmare, which is just insane.